Artist is multiple times in the Database .. how to fix that?

Description of Issue

So when adding Albums to my local Library and I identify the album , I noticed there are often Multiple Entries for the Same Artist. And the Albums in the Database that belong to the same person are split among those entries.

I managed to get around some of the issues by Tagging each album with both Artists , so they appear at least all in my library when I look for a Artist.

But I want to fix the issue that there are multiple Entries or at least be able to choose the correct Artist for that Album. but there seems to be no way to do that.

I noticed this also with stuff that is in Tidal and also my local library… I have the correct artist for my files and some stuff that is on tidal but a few albums are in another entry for that same artist. so when I click on “versions” some releases will not show up.
but its not limited to tidal… this happens with releases that are not on streaming services .

this appears mostly the case with Asian Artists when there are issues how the Artists name is translated or not translated at all … for example “Carmen Maki” and “Calmen Maki” or the entry is in Kanji.
but there are also double entries like in my example in the screenshots.

I know that’s maybe a “me” problem because I listen to those artists that are not that popular, but imagine there would be multiple entries for “David Bowie” or “the Beatles” and a few of their CDs are here and the rest is there.

and this can’t be fixed in “valence” either.

thanks.




You can merge Artists…

It can happen that a duplicate Artist object is created, usually because of poor quality source metadata. Here’s an example in my own library - I have two entries for Laurie Anderson. The false duplicate has been caused by an old mp3 recording of “O, Superman”.

So, first select both entries by right-clicking on them - then the “Merge artists” button will appear at the top right of the Roon screen:

Then the important step is to choose the correct entry to be the Primary Artist. In my case, it is clearly the first entry:

Then the merge is done, and only one entry for the artist remains…

This is, unfortunately, a known behavior. The solution is to ensure that you have an album in the library that has the proper artist credit already, before you import the new local files. Alternatively, you can later merge the duplicate artist into the proper one, my selecting both in the artist view or in the search results and clicking the Merge button that will appear.

See here for more details (and in the posts that are linked from there):

Sometimes it also happens that an artist already exists twice (or more) in the metadata that Roon receives. Then you can also merge them. (You need to have at least one album with each artist credit in the library). You can report it to Roon in the Metadata forum category.

oh I never considered merging Artists. I did it with Albums before. Thanks!

and how would I change this here.

the album is a Live Recording that I purchased recently from Ototoy.jp but it doesn’t appear to be in the Roon database. but it appears in tidal with the artist names tagged in Japanese.
but I can’t identify the album if I just look for the album title it won’t appear either.

so I added both versions to my library and did “group” the tidal album with my purchased one. and made my album primary. but if I want to add it to the Roon database I have to go trough the meta support?

Either that or you could add it to the Musicbrainz online database yourself

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Using discogs or copy and paste meta data from there with a script wouldn’t be possible?

I just compared one album where roon shows 9 Credits for other artists while discogs has 29 mentioned… many of those artist’s aren’t in the roon database to begin with.

I will have a look at musicbrains also.

You can do all that to your own files, of course, but that doesn’t guarantee that Roon then associates this artist from the file tags to the proper existing artist in its database. As far as I can tell, you first have to already have an identified album with the proper artist entry in your library, before you import the album. Otherwise you often get duplicates that are not associated with the proper entry.

Official Roon metadata from Discogs is a feature request. Or actually many duplicated ones - add your vote to the one that has the most votes already:

https://community.roonlabs.com/search?q=Discogs%20%23feedback%3Afeature-suggestions%20

However, this is definitely not simple to do because the completion level on Discogs varies. For many albums there are 20 pressings in Discogs, of which some have detailed track level data and some have barely anything

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@MarcMarc I made an edit to that post regarding Discogs that you might not have seen

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Thanks :slight_smile: definitely a complicated process to include multiple databases.

But definitely a huge value overall to roon especially with the addition of KKBox

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Yes I would love it as well. Even if I manually have to pick a version on Discogs and explicitly tell Roon to import the data from this version. That’s still much better than having to enter everything manually

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