Custom track ratings

Roon does not agree with every feature request. However, since they don’t respond to feature request, you never know if they agree or not until it shows up as a feature in Roon or it doesn’t.

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Currently I am trialing Roon coming from JRiver. I like the interface much more, BUT the inability to use track rating is a show stopper… What is most disturbing, is the fact that I found many threads on this subject within the community and not a single reply from Roon staff.

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A new update is around the corner, I don’t know if this is included. I expect it has been a feature request at some time and you should add your name in that section.
Personally a Heart is all I need to mark favourite tracks and it’s great to be able to swim through these randomly.

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This thread is over five years old now!

The addition of individual track ratings would be an absolute game changer for me. I could get demotivated by the age of this thread, but as others have mentioned the absolute silence from Roon might actually be a good sign. Consider other threads requesting folder views and similar, responses from Roon make it clear that this will never happen, no such responses here.

So I shall remain optimistic. Although I am not holding my breath, as they say.

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Unfortunately not. It is even worse. Some including myself used tags as a workaround for a five star track rating, but in Rel. 1.8 the tag editor is useless, and the tags are not shown in the track list anymore, so you do not know at a glance which are you favorite tracks of an album. Same with playlists.

Roon have said they are looking again at tags based on feedback, so you can expect something soon.

Still relatively new to Roon so haven’t solidified the way I use it yet. But I’m in the ‘believes in track ratings’ camp for many reasons stated above.

The iTunes smart playlist + Roon tagging workaround has a close enough effect and is not oppressively burdensome to me. But whether I do that or we get full rating support there is a HUGE piece I can’t get past.

Ratings do evolve, but whatever I do after that in Roon doesn’t update the files.

So I hear a great tune in Roon and have to go back to iTunes to update its rating, and regularly refresh Roon tags to reflect that? That process of initial rating / tagging workaround and then ongoing maintenance is starting to get a bit much for me.

Or, I dump years of work into managing them directly in Roon only to lose it all if/when I ever switch software or it gets retired. We’re listening to music for the long haul. And that lost value is precisely our starting point with our existing ratings right now.

And this is different than just regular metadata tags (Title, Artist, et al) where there are many external sources for it if it’s ever lost. There is only one source for my opinion of my music.

So far I’ve just been gravitating toward seeing Roon as a music discovery tool and a ‘musical showroom’, where I give up the primary way I control broad listening across my library. And I keep on using iTunes more than I’d like.

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We are professionals involved in high end hifi. Since Roons exist we have a look at it to see how it is improving. We do not understand the lack of track rating basic or custom. It unfortunately makes Roon unuseable for us. We hope it to apear as paired with hqplayer Roon is great. In order to tell more about custom rating it means that we need to create criteria as

Recording quality
Interpretation
Etc.

Of course it makes sense only when paired with the ability to sort tracks in a playlist on the rating criteria of our choice.

I wouldn’t call Roon un useable in any degree, it may not be as good as you would like with one feature missing, so that would make a great optional feature request.

Personally I like the way you can favourite individual tracks, but if I had the option to rate them, it would be information overload.
How many stars would you have? Would these stars be based on audio quality, production values or just music you enjoy?

I get to know my music and don’t need stars to tell me what I like but appreciate some folks may want something like this. I do wonder how many though.

Just my thoughts…

I can’t remember many Track names, Lyrics and sometimes even not Artists. So ratings are essential for me. I got comfortable with iTunes five Star ratings. I know that everyone uses the ratings differently. In my case I use them like this:

1 Star - An ugly song I really hate and don’t want to hear in any situation / spoken words like in the soundtrack for Kill Bill
2 Stars - A track I don’t want to listen randomly but is okay in the context of album listening
3 Stars - Good enough for random and background listening and for party playlists
4 Stars - Really good song I can listen often to
5 Stars - One of the best songs of this artist (in my opinion) / favorite track

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Why give an ugly song any stars? But then I suppose songs you haven’t heard don’t have stars unless they are marked in another way.
Then there is the tedium of marking every song you listen to and deciding on each. No no no, that’s not for me, I want to listen to the music not quantify it all the time. That’s just paperwork…

I give 1 star so that I can filter them out in smart playlists. I still use iTunes/Music for this and sync my Lib to Roon every now and then.

Unrated songs are treated as 3 stars in my smart playlists, so I only have to deal with the stars when really needed. With iTunes/Music it’s just a keyboard shortcut to apply the rating, so paperwork is the wrong metaphor in my case. I don’t mark every song, I’ve better things to do. Some times I look for often listenend songs in my library without any rating and then bulk apply 4 stars. The same goes to often skipped tracks, they get 2 stars.

Well, this only works as I don’t always listen via Roon and iTunes/Music still is in use when I’m not at home or while working in home office. And also my girlfriend relies on the smart playlists in iTunes/Music as she don’t like Roon on the iPad as it does not support common gestures there.

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In our case we need to be able to play tracks accordingly to our visitor demand. Tags allows for instance to find very quickly piano with violin tracks if customer asks for. This is fine, if on top of this we want to play the tracks with the best technical performance then we need the rating to sort tracks and find the good one in a snap. This is when as is without track rating the software is not as we would like it to be.

It’s amazing how we all approach this differently… We just have to do what works for us… Let’s hope the feature arrives sometime

All music players we know have this functionnality it it is really weird that Roon does not as it is very simple to implement as it could even be an evolution of their like symbol.

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I use to use the 5-stars in iTunes as well, even with the 1-star for tracks could not stand. I loved that system! I dont mind not having 5 stars any more, but. Would like at least one more option, something that is between banning a song and loving it… even something like dislike-like-love would be so much better and help with playlists

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JRiver does what I want, I love Star Ratings, both for the Album and Tracks, I really like Roon’s HEART idea, specially the ability to double Heart a track to skip that, so ultimately I want both Heart ratings and Start ratings, no software has it all, so we work with what we have.

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I’ve asked this for over a year.
iTunes included star ratings 15 years ago!

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Pretty much every player software supports this… Overdue in Roon

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iTunes had this feature over a decade ago!!!

Apple even shared the communities’ star ratings. So not only could I rate tracks on my own, Apple helped me save time by showing me other users’ ratings.

C’mon, Roon!!

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