Is the attached screenshot what the contents of backup folders look like? I’m pretty good with files but I’m darned if I could actually conduct a backup from this structure!
And I sure as hell don’t want to find out my backups won’t work if it ever comes to my needing them…
Note this screenshot shows about 10% of all the many subfolders:
Yeah, this has been covered before. I think Roon’s database backup is an example of how not to use the file system. It’s possible they use 3rd party code here, i don’t know, but in general, databases fit neatly into a single file - maybe two.
I think @Jim_F’s point is that the UX shows a much “cleaner” view of the backups, perhaps also suggesting one should be oblivious of what’s going on under the covers. I do believe however that a very large directory structure is inconvenient in certain scenarios (e.g. backup), so I’m with you.
That folder structure scares me I wanted once to copy from the directory, imagining I’ll copy the last 3 backups. I give up and stayed into the roon app
To try to Restore any other way is a fool’s errand
Yes, of course they use vendor code. Why reinvent the wheel?. They don’t use a relational database, which is what I guess you were expecting. They probably picked the database for speed over everything else. Forget the name of the vendor.
Click on Roon Backups or Automatics and you will find it. There is no need at all to be down into the file structure for backups. Just use the Roon Backup and Restore commands.
This is not about Roon’s backups, it’s about file system backups and any tool or OS component that needs to scan the file system. It’s simply inefficient and has the potential to slow down file operations on the same volume. Also, I bet it slows down Ronn’s backup quite a bit, as well as loading that thing in memory upon startup. It seems this wheel is square.
The answers are all here but kind of scattered. When you go to Settings>Backup click browse (like in your screenshot), select that first folder with a single left click and then click “select this folder”. You should see the list of backups with time stamps like others were showing us here.
The way Roon setup their backups is efficient for Roon taking backups.
The way Roon setup their backups it can be argued is inefficient for file operations outside of Roon.
I hate copying over the “backup” directory when I make backups of that drive.
Block sizes can be optimized for a reason. One size seldom fits all.
I deal with what I have.
I’d love to give good news but… when I do exactly what you instruct, when I “select that first folder with a single left click” I cannot “click ‘select this folder.’”
Instead, when I select any folder with a single left click: the underlying set of folders (folder 00, folder 01, folder 02… etc.)(as one of my screenshots) is displayed.
So there’s something very wrong. It’s been that way since I enrolled. BTY I’m on Roon 1.8. And I’m very glad I spotted this trouble before a restore was needed!!
The screenshots you provided (below) show that you’re looking in a folder other than the one you have designated for the backups. You will need to go up one level and select the RoonBackups folder and then “select this folder”.
I would also recommend you set another location to a local or networked drive for redundancy. I am backing up to my WD external as well as Dropbox.
Here’s mine. Note, that I created a folder named Roon_Backups_JGF and a sub-folder under that called Daily. When Roon did the backup, Roon created the folder named RoonBackups. Each backup will create one of those. I have to click on Roon_Backups_JGF to then be able to click on Daily, then Select This Folder. Don’t click on the Roon created folder named RoonBackups.
I wanted once to copy from the directory, imagining I’ll copy the last 3 backups. I give up and stayed into the roon app
