High-resolution output from Roon Server to Marantz Cinema 30 limited to AirPlay (ref#F7BXE4)

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Describe the issue

I’m trying to output high res from Roon Server to my Marantz Cinema 30. It’s only connecting via AirPlay, which is low res. Please help!

Describe your network setup

Synology home network. Wired and WiFi AC

AirPlay is CD quality, not low res. Given the inputs of your device, I believe your only hi res option is by HDMI cable if your Roon Server has such an output.

I don’t think the Cinema 30 is Roon Ready (yet?). There’s some more info in this thread:

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Thanks for the response.

My Roon server is a Mac desktop in another room. HDMI is not a practical option.

My whole goal in pursuing Roon was to enable hires audio streaming from Qobuz. If the only way to connect is via AirPlay, then unfortunately I’m not getting the value of Qobuz and Roon.

If the Marantz is not RoonReady then you need an endpoint.

An endpoint to sit between the roon server and the Marantz. Takes in ethernet and then coax or toslink out to the Marantz.

There are many on the market at different price points. Wiim Pro would work.

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Until Marantz AVR range are certified Roon Ready then HDMI or using Airplay or the extension RHEOS are you only options. Roon uses its own streaing protocol as well as supporting a few others such as Airplay, Chromecast, Sonos, KEF and Linns Songcast but it doesnt support HEOS or UPnP. Marantz and Denon have added Roon Ready code to HEOS in a lot of their 2 channel kit but as yet nothing for their receivers.

If you where looking for multichannel playback then that will not work over network at all only via HDMI as HEOS architecture doesnt support it with or without Roon Ready status.

Have a look at RHEOS as a solution but it does require some setup if your using Windows/MacOS. I used it for 18 months until my Model 40n became Roon Ready earlier this month.

Thanks for your input.

I always appreciate when the community steps up and crafts a solution. I have been working for several hours trying to get RHEOS working. Sadly still not working.

Think my roon/qobuz experiment is done for now until/unless Marantz certifies its AVRs as roon ready.

Happy to try and help.

Maybe let us know the specific of what the problem is.

Running with extension manager is pretty reliable.

I have no idea if the AVRs will ever be certified as room ready .

A wiim pro is only 140ish USD and there next day with amazon.

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Hi, and Merry Christmas to you.
Cinema 30 is a beast, eh? I agree with you, AirPlay is low, though it supports 44/16 (CD q)
I recomend, with the highend equipment you have, to setup a dedicated Roon Server (an Intel NUC or equal) with Roons own operating system (ROCK).

Then use HDMI to connect the Cinema. Read an enjoy.
Thx

First of all, thanks to you all for the support!

I’m seeing three options here:

  1. get RHEOS working
  2. get a streamer such as a Wiim Pro Plus
  3. get a NUC and install ROCK

Re: NUC/ROCK, do you recommend attaching directly to the AVR via HDMI? Must NUC devices have only limited storage capacity, which may be fine if mostly using streaming.

You can put a SATA disk with up to 15 mm thickness into the Nucleus One. This gets you up to 8 TB with a Samsung QVO SSD

I also have a QNAP NAS device capable of running Roon Server (rather than my Mac), but I presume that would have no impact whatsoever

@peter_richardson thanks for your offer. If you’ve got a detailed installation procedure for MacOS, I’d be willing to try it out. I’m pretty technical but not a developer. I know my way around the terminal and have Homebrew, Node.js, and Docker on my machine. I’ve got a Github account but ran into trouble trying clone your repo. I then installed it thru Docker but received error messages whenever running it. Gave up after that (d’oh!).

Running the GitHub version on a Mac is hard as I don’t have one to test. Others have tried earlier versions and had success but at present this is likely to fail.

Easiest set up is to install extension manager and run the latest version through that.

Is there a decent procedure for doing so on a Mac?

Actually, you could use a ROCK/NUC system purely as an endpoint; connecting it to the AVR via HDMI which would support multichannel hi-res audio.

Leave the Roon Server running on the Mac and continue using that as Roon’s “brain”.

But, as @Suedkiez suggests, if you wanted to, you could also move to a NUC-based or Nucleus One solution to kill two birds with one stone.

That would solve your problem and also free up your Mac — from needing to be turned on / double up as your Roon server. Which woudl kill two birds with one stone.

You also don’t need the latest and greatest model. An older 8th gen NUC (from the recommended list) will likely be fine if you can pick one up used / cheap.

You could store any local music files on your QNAP NAS and point to them in Roon via SMB. They don’t need to live on the same machine as your Roon server.

If your just streaming then storage capacity won’t be an issue (you’ll only need the one SSD for ROCK) and so you’ll just need a single 128 / 256GB SSD to install ROCK on.

You might find it easier to install Roon Extension Manager as a docker container on your QNAP NAS.

If nothing else it has the slight advantage of being able to run in the background, regardless of where you Roon server lives or if it’s booted up.

One you have Roon Extension Manager instaleld, enabling RHEOS is trivial within the Extension Manager interface.

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Yes. Fully agree that this is the preferred route.