Integration of Amazon Music High Resolution

It could be that Amazon is just not interested.

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There in is the dilemma. I have Tidal because Quobuz had holes for my specific music choices. Amazon appears to have everything plus hi res. I just want to enjoy the hi res music without MQA.

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Amazon is the stumbling block, not Roon.

Qobuz very easy to access btw. I’m in Australia and have been using for months…

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I will probably drop Tidal in 2 months and use Qobuz 100 percent. And not because I don’t like MQA, I do. I just don’t need to pay for both and Qobuz is cheaper.

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Perhaps, do we know this for sure? As I said I don’t have Amazon & am not looking at subscribing to it, at least currently. I am just all for greater options where possible.

@Austar

I get there are ‘workarounds’ Austar, as there are watching country specific content such as movies etc. However, the fact remains it is not officially available out here, just the 12 countries as they state.

Hope you enjoy it - have you migrated to it from another streaming service?

As Roon customers, I’m not sure we know that Amazon is the stumbling block, but Roon knows and that’s all that matters.

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a way to consume Amazon Music via Roon exist… it’s not conventional but grant listening Amazon Music media streamed from your desktop Web or Amazon Music App via Roon to your Hifi gears.
and. don’t provide any kind of album collection via roon … only music…

I’m pretty sure that Amazon is the stumbling block.

Gaining access to Amazon’s marketplace would be a huge win for Roon and Roon’s ongoing viability. Unfortunately, integration of their streaming service into Roon would be pretty irrelevant in terms of market share for Amazon. They really don’t have much in the way of incentive, and they may well have security policies that prevent them providing access to their metadata for companies like Roon.

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I don’t especially see things that way. Sure Amazon is massive. Amazon music is not.

I don’t know about their incentive - don’t forget their customers may very well be Roon customers who would like integration. Notwithstanding, I assume that number would be small overall.

As for security policies & their metadata, I don’t understand how Amazon music differs in that regard to Tidal or Qobuz.

I think that’s a key point. We don’t know, unless Roon has made some sort of official announcement (I assume), but Roon would certainly know!

It would be interesting for an Amazon user to contact their customer support requesting Roon integration & find out what type of respone they got. Just an idea.

They did, in this thread.

Oh - must have missed that or not scrolled far back enough - thanks!

Roon supposedly has around 100,000 subscribers, Amazon Music has 55,000,000.

Maybe Amazon Music is not massive but if all Roon users subscribed to Amazon Music it would only add 0.18% to their subscriber count. More than a rounding error but not by much.

This February 2020 article ranks Amazon Music third in paying users although it does mention Prime users are considered paying users. Qobuz and Tidal did not make the list.

Tim

:grinning:

Sheesh, Roon has some work to do!!!

Cheers Tim. :sunglasses:

Tidal and Qobuz are small specialist organisations. They will not scrimp on security, but they cannot possibly have the resources to match the really big Global players on the Global Internet level.

Amazon is a true Internet giant involved in a whole host of areas including secure web and data hosting on a truly global scale. They simply cannot afford to have any major impact on their reputation, and so will devote huge amounts of effort and money on security.

Yes we know it is an Amazon issue, not a Roon issue.

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That 55 million seems to be a very misleading figure, then. I’m counted among the 55 million despite having never used the amazon music service or listening to a single track. I’m sure I’m not alone in that regard.

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David,

I’m not sure you or any Prime Member not using Amazon Music is counted in the 55 million. Amazon supposedly has more than 100 million Prime members just in the US. If they were all counted as Amazon Music subscribers then the count for Amazon Music should be at least 100 million.

Tim

Thank you Craig - appreciated. :smile:

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I’m happy that Sound United (Denon, Marantz, et al) made their recent “Roon-Tested” announcement, but it almost amounts to nothing and seems (to me, at least) to have been purely a marketing ploy. For most of their components, “Roon Tested” means via Air Play, which is not HiRez/Hi-Def. Furthermore, most of their components have already been Roon-compatible/capable via Air Play for at least a couple of years. There may be some of their very high-end units that have recently-received Roon RAAT capability (Roon-Ready certification which equates to high-def network-streaming via Roon RAAT), but they are very few, if any. I guess Sound United may have only recently received the “OFFICIAL” Roon-Tested designation for multiple components, even though many of those have been Roon Air Play capable for a couple of years. Good for them to tout their horn, but I rarely (never) use Air Play in my system, and prefer wired ethernet high-definition audio streaming via Roon RAAT (or you can also do it by Wi-Fi, but that’s not the same as Air Play). Still, I believe getting the word out about Roon is good ANY way, ANYtime!

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