Is Roon slowly “dying”?

I don’t have any of those problems so what happens now?

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It sounds like you have a problem with your network. I would look long and hard at this first, before blaming the Roon software for your problems.

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Well, to be fair Martin, they are somewhat connected. Roon puts heavy demands on the network in ways that just about no other program we have in our homes does. More demanding than Tidal, or 4K TV connections under some conditions. So it you have a shortcoming in your network, Roon will tell you it’s there. And I can see a person would have a less-than-favorable experience. True, it may not be ‘the code’, per se.

@Lee_Hammond, I can see you’ve reported these issues to Roon Support before. It looks like they’ve asked questions about aspects of your setup in an effort to troubleshoot the problems but things have been left open (at least publicly) as of Sept 4. I’d encourage you to give Roon Support a chance to work out these issues so you can have a satisfying experience.

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Well all I know is I am all in. I had initial doubts due to the price.

Frankly the interface, particularly on iphone is atrocious, this hunkering down on a scroll bar thing is just nonsense.

But the back end, the integration with devices, DSP, all that stuff is just terrific. I would not consider other software now, all I ever think of with hardware etc is, will it work with roon.

I am not doing Amazon Music because its not in roon, etc.

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You folks complaining about the phone and iPad interfaces should instead just be happy Roon is not making you all use Surface tablets exclusively.

I am just blown away by what they’ve done. The Roon UI technology is inherently Windows-centric, but they’ve made it work on Macs, Android, and iOS. Frankly, heroic. And it still looks polished. Appreciate the accomplishment, y’all!

I would assume the huge UI project alluded to occasionally by the Roon guys is re-doing all of this in some more portable platform. Huge task.

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@Martin_Kelly Couldn’t agree more. What is it with the constant criticism and the conspiracy theories around Roon development. Enjoy it for what it is. It’s a great product.

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The blog appears to advise of new “partners” and little else, useful, am I missing something?

Updates generally deal with things that don’t “just work fine” and new “things.”

Chris, I see your point but even if Roon remained static the world around it would change — new DAC’s and other endpoints. Other HQ streaming services to integrate with — most notably Amazon Music HD. Amazon HD integration should be a priority for 1.7 in my view.

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Amazon HD Music integration is not something Roon can just decide to do. It’s much more complicated than that. Amazon would have to want to play too. If Amazon does not want to play, it cannot happen.

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If you want Amazon integration then the roon team have suggested you let Amazon know as it is up to Amazon.

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Roon will never support UPnP according to Mr. Dulai, see this post:

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I don’t really have an opinion on whether Roon is “dying” or not (and what that exactly means). However, I do know something:

When I discovered the software the first time, I was impressed. I was moving towards high Rez music, and it did a lot of things right for me. There were gaps, bits that didn’t work as they should, basic stuff sorely missing, but hey, it was a work in progress. I liked it so much I turned my subscription into a lifetime purchase, and man that was expensive.

Today, I don’t feel much as changed. Maybe it’s unfair, maybe support for a bunch of stuff I just happen not to have any use for has improved dramatically. But Roon is meant for me to be my “one-stop shop” for my - entirely offline - music, so really basic stuff like smart playlists, being able to rate individual songs, having changes reflected in the files without having to export-reimport, heck, helping me handle my external player are all things I’m missing.

Qualitatively, it was a huge jump from iTunes, and I guess sound quality is the most important thing. But I’m missing too many basic tools I used to have, it’s frustrating. I added a big classical box-set last weekend, and the process was miserable compared to what it would have been under iTunes; it took me literally 2 hours, and that’s not good. Maybe it’s my fault, and I misunderstood what Roon is trying to achieve, but I’ll admit I’m very disappointed with the speed of implementation.

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It does seem that Classical=pain with roon for the enthusiast.

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Everything around us is dying…the only question is how fast.

All Things Will Die by Alfred Lord Tennyson

Clearly the blue river chimes in its flowing
Under my eye;
Warmly and broadly the south winds are blowing
Over the sky.
One after another the white clouds are fleeting;
Every heart this May morning in joyance is beating
Full merrily;
Yet all things must die
The stream will cease to flow;
The wind will cease to blow;
The clouds will cease to fleet;
The heart will cease to beat;
For all things must die.
[…]

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What, only 5 billion years till the sun turns red giant and consumes Roon Labs totally? Get ready…

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Perfectly condensed into 1 sentence.

Sad but true.

Just before the „Roon is wonderful, stop complaining“ brigade starts. Yes there is a lot I like about it, that is why I paid 500 USD for it, but for classical enthusiasts there are a lot of problems, that could have done with bugfixes in the past months. I am not even talking about a great new release, just a 1.6 that actually works great for all kinds of music.

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The Classical problem is far deeper than a “bug fixes”. First, there are 8000 different ways Classical folks like to organize their music. Second, the metadata situation for Classical is really bad and ties back to the first item.

Roon certainly can improve their system to better handle the needs of users with a large Classical library, but “bug fixes” aren’t the solution.

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Whatever the perfect word for it is, it needs to be fixed, mended, rethought, upgraded etc :wink:

If metadata that actually works well, is so hard to come by, atleast make the editor a better tool. Sometimes sorting tracks takes about 100000 clicks, since selecting more than one track to move up or down is not possible ( a truly basic feature)

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Roon remains excellent. Two years in and I have never listened to more music. I am planning more endpoints. I constantly recommend it! I just want people to enjoy the music as much as I have in no small part to Roon.

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