Issues with Roon that stop me buying

I wonder why there is no such agitation (as it is in this topic) about the huge backlog that the Feature Requests is right now with much more demanding and pressing requirements…

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I was doing consultancy at a client who were fractured so Corporate, that we were doing, had protection up the wazoo. The retail shops, nothing.
Joe Public walks in with a USB stick and oops! no more retail network.

Feature requests are what they are – requests for features. They don’t become part of a backlog just because they’re made.

In this phase of the product’s maturity, deciding what Roon is not is oftentimes more important than what it is.

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If it was currys or someone like that - it was probably a blessing in disguise…

At least then the usual 'its in stock but I cant find it, please waste your life standing here while I try to find it" changes to a simple ‘it does not appear to be in stock’… :wink:

Fair enough, I was just talking about the level of interest of the public towards an “alien” :grinning: “issue” (my opinion) compared to more important ones.

Or, in other words, if the community will be as passionate about the more acute issues of the ROON application, maybe they would make it to the backlog (maybe even faster). Just saying… :grinning:

In that example, presumably the music is just something I don’t want in the library. And it is also a multi-step process that is IMHO very kludgy to import and then delete. Sure you can do it, but you can also drive your car in reverse all the way to work. That doesn’t make it a good product.

Another point is that, at least in theory, it infringes on the artists’ rights to import a friend’s CD that I don’t own. Same if you consider his USB stick as a backup for him, but not for me to keep the music on it.

If the CD Player or VLC could play through the Roon audio network, yes, that would be fine. But many of us have re-configured our audio/network so that the endpoint isn’t something that could easily be accessed to play a local VLC or CD application. Plus, as already mentioned, then those tracks could not be in the same queue as my Roon library tracks. It is not equivalent at all.

The original edge case comment came off as pretty dismissive.

Why worry about locking the window when Roon’s lack of security leaves the door wide open?

Anyway, this wasn’t intended as a Roon-bashing. I felt the need, as a forum regular, to defend a dismissive set of posts to what I completely believe to be a core part of a digital audio system and a totally reasonable suggestion. Look at the title of the thread - this was an offering of a reasonable opinion and I am concerned that there is a group of Roon faithful that seem to dismiss every suggestion that doesn’t fit their purist image of how Roon could be used. The ability to play a CD isn’t ridiculous or even a little outside the norm. And you cannot use another application if your endpoint doesn’t really work that way.

I do appreciate and enjoy the liveliness of this forum. Let’s all just be a little more welcoming of other opinions. That is, unless they are really ridiculous :slight_smile:

I wasn’t bashing Roon, I own a lot of meridian gear, Roon is based on Sooloos (Roon wrote the meridian packages) so yes it can be used to rip cd and play cd. monthly Subs would bring in far more revenue, this proved to be the case with both emby and Plex, being able to write 3rd part mods would bring in more devs and expansion of the product,

I ultimately want Roon , however if you ignore customers you will end up bankrupt. !!

This isn’t the first time this came up and there’s at least one explanation by Roon somewhere in there forum why they decided to not go for monthly. (Haven’t searched for it myself right now but I know it’s there.)

Well, with a Nucleus in a separate local network (in-store presentation) there might not be that much havoc an usb stick could do except if the Nucleus would let it - but with (all!) the endpoints talking just RAAT what’s the risk?

On the other hand it’s always easy to find reasons not to do something. Or the other way round. :no_mouth:

Try not to get overwrought and carried away.

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I’ve used Roon with friends USB sticks for a music party.

Without Roon it goes like this:
Copy files from USB to desktop folders (Pete, Julian, Thomas etc.)
Take turns sitting at the PC to select Tracks from folder

With Roon it goes like this:
Copy files from USB to desktop folders (Pete, Julian, Thomas etc.)
Settings/Storage/Add Folder x #
Tracks/Focus/Inspector/Storage Locations/Pete
Select All
Tag - Pete
Repeat x #
Pass around iPad and build Queues from Tags

There’s a few more clicks involved, but doable (even after a few wines).

If this is all about house parties, then what is needed is integration with the Native Instruments Traktor DJ app -
Can do beat-matched and properly mixed with fx then :smiley:

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@Christopher_Swain How are you playing a cd from Sooloos?

Metadata licensing issue?

… I believe it was more in the direction of subscriber commitment. Maybe I’ll search for it later. :wink:


Update:

OK - some links from my search (especially Danny’s replies):


Please note that the statements were valid when made - things may change over time …

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I’d like a Porsche, or even a Ferrari, but I’m not on forums moaning how expensive they are. Roon has set their price, it’s 100% their call. Either pony up or move on.

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If that’s the case, I’d have thought $500 is a steal. But I guess there are a lot of people out there who will pay the earth for something tangible but expect software to be either cheap as chips or free.

Roon is a beautifully engineered product even though it doesn’t come in a box. And it costs less than a CD player.

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As my understanding and experience with Roon expands, I’m finding that there are ways to achive many (but not all) of the goals this thread. In particular, I was a skeptic of Tidal and subscriptions in general.

However, now I can demonstarte the power of Roon by building a playlist WITH the person adn then showing the benefits of Roon by playing the music.

All with little effort, and the approach shows why we might (or might not!) want / need Roon!

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A solution to this lack has been discussed before:

Christopher_Swain Excuse me for saying so, but when you expect a free version so that you have to pay nothing, it is a demonstration of a weird attitude. Do you want other people to work for free for YOU? Isn’t it fair that people get paid for solid work? How much do you pay for a car? How much did you pay for all that gear? A gift to YOU? By all means, if people want to offer you something for free, grab it if that is your preference, but to suggest to a commercial vendor to turn around the business model?

Not impressed!

Moreover, please write proper English when you invite other people to read your “essays”. Your language is bordering on being unreadable.

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