KKBox connected but not playing in Roon (ref#WNHH0K)

What best describes your playback issue?

· Music doesn't start when I press "Play"

What type of Zone is affected by this problem?

· *Directly-connected Zones* are affected.

Does the issue affect all file formats?

· The issue affects *multiple/all* file formats.

Does the issue happen with local library music, streaming service music, or both?

· *Only streaming* music is affected.

Please select the streaming service(s) with which you're encountering playback problems.

· KKBOX

Have you tried logging out and back in again to your streaming service in Roon Settings?

· Logging out and back in had no impact, the issue remains

Do you have an approximate timestamp of when the issue last occurred?

· happens across the board

What are the make and model of the affected audio device(s) and the connection type?

· PC? what is this asking

Describe the issue

Just got kkbox... everything else works, I got my kkbox account connected, I am on the trial for now. the kkbox app works itself, though it does not play in roon. either it a) says "too many failures" or b) starts, the light comes on, then loads again, repeat and never actually plays anything. option a seems to be when I try to play something that shows up on roon but doesnt on the kkbox app, but I'm not sure why b happens.

Describe your network setup

Just my computer for now, I havent set up arc yet to access from other networks, but I set it up so I can play it on my phone. I started roon yesterday..

I don’t know whether KKBox is any different but Roon does not work with trial or even free Tidal or Qobuz accounts.

I mean I’m on qobuz and tidal trial and its working just fine

Hi @Benjamin_Shalumov ,

Does the same issue happen if you try to navigate to a track via the KKBox side-bar items? Are you able to reproduce the issue across multiple audio zones or is it just happening on one zone?

yes the issue happens even via the side bar, it happens in every zone

booted up my computer again and it works fine… still have an issue with some, for example, Sunshower by Taeko Onuki

Hello @Benjamin_Shalumov,

We’ve gone ahead and enabled diagnostics for your account. Based on the available log data, all songs by Taeko Onuki appear to have played without any issues.

Could you kindly try reproducing the issue again and provide us with the exact timestamp of when the problem occurs? This will help us investigate further.

at the beginning… the tracks dont start. they dont start playing at all

Hi @Benjamin_Shalumov,
Thanks for the reply — we are aware of the symptoms you’re experiencing. What we need is an exact timestamp of when the issue occurs. That will help us pinpoint the relevant section in your logs and potentially identify the root cause.

Could you please make a note of the exact date and time the next time the playback issue happens and let us know? That information will be really helpful in moving forward.

I’m really not sure what you mean. It doesn’t play at all, it starts and fails playing immediately. at 0:00, like I said, they don’t start, they don’t play anything

Hi @Benjamin_Shalumov,

According to diagnostics, the tracks that fail are returning an “unauthorized” status from KKBOX due to regional restrictions. This is upstream of Roon and at the level of the KKBOX account and geolocation of the IP address. Their distribution channels don’t have standing agreements for certain content to be played in the region from which your IP address is requesting these URLs.

This would normally present an error in the Roon UI rather than simply refusing to play. Please allow us a chance to escalate to development and we’ll have a more precise response.

sure, thank you. Other stuff is working, its just that one and a few others for some reason, but please lmk :slight_smile:

Hi @Benjamin_Shalumov,

Just to ensure, you don’t rely on any proxy servers or VPNs that change the geolocation of your IP address?

correct, I do not

Hi @Benjamin_Shalumov,

And to confirm, you’ve signed up for a KKBox account within the US?

No, my friend had an extra account and let me sign into his

Hi @Benjamin_Shalumov,

Thanks for the additional info - that may explain the “unauthorized” status from KKBOX due to regional restrictions.

You likely need an account tied to the country you’re accessing KKBOX from. Depending on the country your friend’s account is from, you could always test out setting up a VPN originating from the same location - although that may cause the opposite effect from your other streaming services.

The funny thing is… if I change my VPN to anywhere, more things dont work haha, idk, even if its from the region I got the account from

Hi @Benjamin_Shalumov ,

Can you please try to reproduce the issue again and let us know the exact local time + date + track you next notice the behavior on?

I am looking over your Roon account diagnostics and I see something strange, which is that Roon is saying you don’t have any favorites or albums saved on KKBOX (and you are using a Singapore subscription type). Is this accurate, or is there supposed to actually be tracks saved to your account?

I assume you have tried to log out and back into KKBOX in Roon Settings → Services? If so, you can also try to clear out the Roon cache with the below instructions:

  • Exit out of Roon
  • Find and open your Roon database
  • Navigate to Roon/Cache
  • Move the contents of the /Cache folder elsewhere, like your desktop
  • Try restarting Roon and verify if the issue still occurs

This time it says “too many failures, stopped playback” instead of skipping through all the songs and not playing them