Lumin supports 24-bit Spotify Lossless

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Spotify Lossless is finally (or going to be) released (to some regions such as Australia, Austria, Czechia, Denmark, Germany, Japan, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, the US, and the UK).

If there is any Lumin Spotify user here who has already got access to Lossless streaming, please update your Spotify app, configure Media Quality to Lossless, and try it with Lumin. (If you don’t see that, you’re not in a launched region or your account has not got it yet).

Please let me know if there is anyone who got it working with Lumin.

All Lumin streamer models should support it.

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Good to hear Peter! As soon as I have it available I’ll update here :+1:

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Unfortunately there appears to be a problem with Spotify allowing lossless playback on our hardware, even though we were certified, and we are investigating it.

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I thought it worked on my end but I was wrong…

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I’ve been working over the weekend to resolve this issue, and I expect the fix to be available very soon.

Meanwhile, here’s a longer list of Spotify Lossless regions, according to reddit: United States, Germany, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, France, Netherlands, Spain, Poland, Italy, Japan, Sweden, Belgium, Norway, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Austria, Denmark, New Zealand, Finland, Ireland, Taiwan, Portugal, Israel, Greece, Hungary, Singapore, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea, Hong Kong, Bulgaria, Croatia, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Iceland, Serbia, Luxembourg, Slovenia, Cyprus, Malta, Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia, Albania, Montenegro, Kosovo, Andorra, Liechtenstein, Monaco, San Marino.

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The roll out per country is also in different waves until end October, which I got confirmed my Spotify customer service. So my neighbor can have the Spotify functionality for lossless available while I have to wait for ???
I do not have it available after applying for premium yesterday. :enraged_face:

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Yes.

Yes.

This works similar to (some brand of) smartphone OS upgrade in which people using the same phone in the same country get the same OS upgrade at different times, but this is far more “gradual”.

Same here. We opened a Premium account in a launch country just to be able to test it, but this newly created account does NOT have the lossless permission.

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Firmware 21 is released to support Spotify Lossless to all Lumin streamer models.

To use Spotify Lossless:

  • Make sure you are subscribed to the (paid) Spotify Premium
  • Wait for Spotify to notify you that you are entitled to Lossless quality playback
  • Make sure your phone is on WiFi and Lumin is powered on and connected to the network
  • Update Spotify app to the latest
  • Update Lumin firmware to 21 or newer using Lumin app
  • If you have disabled Spotify Connect in Lumin app before, please enable it in Lumin app
  • Launch Spotify app, (top left hand corner) profile → Settings and privacy → Media quality → change your (phone speaker) Audio Streaming Quality to Lossless
  • Play something that is NOT what you usually play using your phone speaker, make sure you see Lossless indication on the track
  • Switch the output to Lumin
  • (The playing track becomes 320k quality)
  • Change quality settings → Lossless, confirm to “Turn on lossless”
  • (The current playing track remains to be 320k even after the quality setting has been changed)
  • Play a different track so that this new track is Lossless
  • Repeat the steps for changing quality setting for every piece of hardware, because the quality setting is per device rather than global
  • Settings > Data saving and offline (scroll down to the end) > Clear cache

The strangeness of this procedure comes from the per-device setting, and I experienced an issue that previously cached 320k track remains to be 320k even after I changed the quality to Lossless and changed tracks multiple times.

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I have it working over here. (The Netherlands)
Thank you Peter! I really appreciate the frequent updates.

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Hoe heb je het werkend gekregen?

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Niet veel voor hoeven doen. Firmware van de lumin updaten, setting in spotify op lossless zetten en het werkt.

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Here, also NL, it is now working fine after a Spotify update.

Thanks for the new functionality Lumin!

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Hi Peter!
Thanks for the effort of you and your team in bringing lossless Spotify to our Lumins…

I just received the lossless access today and have been trying it out for a couple of hours with my Lumin U2. Spotify displays lossless and the display of the Lumin (and the audio, of course) confirms this.

I encountered an issue though:
The audio can suddenly start to “jerk” (starting and stopping rapidly) and the Lumin started switching its relay like crazy… the same relay noise it makes when the audio quality changes between songs. Maybe some sort of buffering issue? -I have never had that occur before with any other lossless streaming sources.

When it happens, during a random song, I can pause it for a while, then resume only to have it jerk again a few seconds later. But when I change the song it immediately starts playing normally again. Weird.

Will try it out some more on other pieces of equipment to see if it a Lumin problem or a Spotify problem.

Regards
Simon

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In Lumin app settings - Player Options - About U2, please use a different setting of Google DNS. Then turn off Spotify Connect. Wait for 10 seconds, then turn it back on.

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Thanks! I have not had any trouble since changing DNS server from Google 8.8.8.8 to 1.1.1.1.

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Is there a way to prevent the settings of Analog Audio Re-sampling not be turned off when starting to stream using Spotify? Each time I switch to Spotify after using Tidal this happens. Not the other way around.

I miss the integration of Spotify in the Lumin app like Tidal has a lot. The interface of Spotify is making me hate it. Although I have ROON available I never felt the need using it having Tidal and local files available in the Lumin app. Now I feel I have to to enjoy both streaming services.

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Thank you.

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What is your Lumin model? T2?

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Out of curiosity @wklie is the Spotify Lossless implementation on your devices bit-perfect & lossless?

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Yes, of course. (Unless the user turns on any Lumin custom re-sampling and/or the optional Spotify Audio Normalization.)

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