Need guidance on cleaning up Roon library and re-importing files (ref#KHNPWX)

[RM_Kamphuis (René)]

What’s happening?

· Something else

How can we help?

· None of the above

Other options

· I don't like how the product works

Describe the issue

It is a long standing annoyance: the clean up library function. Before cleaning up the library there is an impossible instruction to perform: "In some cases it might be useful to instruct Roon to forget about the files prior to re-importing them.". How can we know what to re-import of the only clue is the amount of files that will be cleaned? If the names of the artists, albums or files were shown it would be easy. Could you please let me know how I can perform the suggested action?

Describe your network setup

Not really relevant here since it is happening on everybody's Roon software.

[Geoff_Coupe]

I’ve moved your post from Support to the Feedback section of the forum, since your question is not one that the Support Team will be able to deal with.

All Feedback posts are read by the Roon Labs team.

The issue is, as you say, longstanding, and there is already a Feature Suggestion request. You should add your vote to it.

Clean Up Library should list the "deleted" files it proposes to remove

Roon should have a way of displaying some useful information about the “deleted” entries it proposes to clean up when doing a Settings -> Library -> Clean Up Library -> Clean up deleted file action. After all, the underlying cause of the lost or missing file(s) might be a network, hardware, or system problem that would be hard to identify or correct without knowing which file(s) are involved. Contacting Support with the logs seems like a slow and hard way for Roon to provide the needed informat…

[RM_Kamphuis (René)]

Hi @Geoff_Coupe, already voted and contributed to the feedback post. Thought to ask support because Roon itself suggests an action but I don’t know how to perform it. And if Roon doesn’t know either, they shouldn’t make that suggestion.

[Carl]

@RM_Kamphuis

“In some cases it might be useful to instruct Roon to forget about the files prior to re-importing them.”.

Clicking on “Clean Up Library” with that option checked will do that.
When re-imported Roon will no longer have any prior knowledge of the files.

@RM_Kamphuis

How can we know what to re-import of the only clue is the amount of files that will be cleaned?

In this case, roon is reporting that these files have been deleted from the file system.
Which would have been a manual operation by the user.
If you didn’t keep a record of what folders/files were removed, then I don’t think there is a way to find out (hence the feature request topic).

You could try a library export before and after and them compare them.
However, I don’t know if those 65 files would be listed in export #1 or not, but worth checking to find out.

[RM_Kamphuis (René)]

The files ready to remove are not in the queue for removal because I removed files. This que will be filled with files that are no longer available on the streaming service or were moved to another location. This is explained before library cleanup. I need to know which files will be removed so I can buy them somewhere else or find them again on their new location. Now we know nothing!

[Suedkiez (Just a fellow user like you)]

I agree, but this is exactly what the existing feature suggestion is about

[Carl]

@RM_Kamphuis

no longer available on the streaming service or were moved to another location.

Thanks for the clarification, streaming tracks not local file … understood.

@RM_Kamphuis

I need to know which files will be removed so I can buy them somewhere else or find them again on their new location.

Unfortunately that’s not possible at present … hence all the Feature Suggestions topics …

https://community.roonlabs.com/t/select-search-unavailable-tracks-in-playlists-and-tracks-screen/110664?u=carl

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[RM_Kamphuis (René)]

Thanks @Carl, just hoping with these occasional stirrups, Roon will finally decide to tackle this issue Have a nice weekend all!