Nucleus not visible or accessible (ref#V5MNS5)

What is the operating system of your Roon Server host machine?

· Nucleus

What kind of device are you using to perform the login?

· iOS

Where are you trying to login?

· I can't log into Roon

Are you still facing the issue on the different device

· No, the issue remains the same

Record the timestamp

· I can’t connect to the nucleus. I can’t even see it

Describe the issue

I can’t connect to my nucleus and I can’t even see it.

Describe your network setup

The nucleus is connected directly to a Verizon extender. It used to work well with no issues.

I’d just try restarting everything! My Nucleus switches off after a power cut - which we had two days ago - and always needs to be manually restarted. Try restarting your extender/router.

Hi @Antoine_Remy,

We still can’t see the Nucleus on our side, so the next thing we need to check is whether you can reach the RoonOS WebUI. If you can connect the Nucleus HDMI to a TV or monitor, please share a screenshot of what is showing there.

Hi! What’s not quite right with Roon?

· None of the above quite fits

None of the above quite fits

· None of these quite match

Tell us what's going on

· I still can’t get access to my nucleus. last night I unplugged it and put it back on after 10minutes, I regained access to it and I attempted to updated the nucleus through its web interface based on what I was suggested. After few minutes I lost control again. I don’t if it’s my Verizon extender acting up because sometimes I don’t see any lights blinking on the back of it and whenever I tilted it forward to take a look at it’s back , I heard a pulsing noise. Based on your experience could it be an issue ?

Tell us about your home network

· The main router is located in the basement and the nucleus is connected to a Verizon extender on the first floor. I have three streamers connected wirelessly to the nucleus .

Hi @Antoine_Remy

I’ve merged your new post into your existing support topic. Please don’t create new topics for the same issue just append new posts to the existing.

Thanks for the update, @Antoine_Remy, and yes, what you’re describing with the extender is very relevant.

The pattern you’ve described is a strong match for a failing network link rather than a failing Nucleus. The Nucleus came back after a power cycle, stayed reachable long enough to start an update, then disappeared again, and in the same window the extender it’s plugged into is showing no lights and making an audible pulsing noise.

It’s also worth knowing that your Nucleus isn’t really wired in the way it looks. The cable runs to the extender, but the extender’s own link back to the main router in the basement is wireless. So your Roon Server is effectively sitting behind a wireless hop, and that hop is the least reliable part of the chain. That’s a setup we’d want to change regardless of what the extender turns out to be doing.

Two things to try, in this order:

1. Get eyes on the Nucleus. Connect the Nucleus HDMI output to a TV or monitor and send us a photo of what’s on screen. This is the single most useful thing right now, it tells us whether the Nucleus is booting normally, whether the update completed, and what IP address it believes it has, none of which we can see from our side while it’s off the network.

2. Take the extender out of the picture. Move the Nucleus down to the basement temporarily and run an Ethernet cable straight into the main Verizon router, or run a long cable up to it, whichever is easier. Your streamers will still find it over Wi-Fi as long as everything stays on the same network. If the Nucleus becomes reliably visible again, we’ve confirmed the extender, and that’s a call to Verizon for a replacement rather than anything to change in Roon.

A couple of details that will help us as well:

  • Log into your main Verizon router and check the list of connected devices for the Nucleus. If it appears there with an IP address, the Nucleus is alive and the problem is purely reachability. If it never appears, the extender isn’t passing it through at all.
  • Let us know whether the extender is set up as a true extender/bridge or whether it’s handing out its own IP addresses. If it’s running its own network, your Nucleus and your streamers may be on two different networks, which would prevent Roon from seeing them even when everything is powered on and healthy.

One note on the update: if the network dropped partway through, it’s possible the update didn’t finish cleanly. Please don’t retry it until the connection is stable, a second interrupted update is a good way to turn a network problem into a software one. Once the Nucleus is on a solid wired link, we’ll confirm the OS version from the Web UI and re-run it properly if needed.