This is Jazz focused. Some albums show many versions of a track across my library. But other albums don’t show any other versions of a song I know has many versions in my library. Any idea why?
Thanks -
Click the three-dot menu on the right of the track.
Does it contain a “Go to composition” entry like this, which is a track that has other performances?
Or is it missing like this?
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Hi and thanks for the reply. It’s neither. The missing LP’s icon next to the favorite icon is missing on tracks that have other versions.
Ok that one I have never seen. The only way I know this is when the whole composition property is missing (as indicated by the missing menu entry) and the track is not recognized as being a composition at all. I would have been able to offer some hints and partial workarounds for this one.
But the LP icon missing although the track IS recognized as a composition is new to me
Hey @Suedkiez , I was looking for something just like you described in the second screenshot.
I am a bit confused in how Roon detects compositions and creates the so called Track Versions. Some work very well and some other don’t.
Right now I have a track that is contained in it’s original album and it was feature in another compilation but even containing the same information (name, artists, etc) it considers two different tracks.
I might be missing something but trying to dig in the track and/or album edit, I can’t really find anything to “merge” them or check something so they “connect” into a single track and different versions/appearances.
If you could help me a bit with this, I would really appreciate it!
Thanks!
Do the tracks have a Go To Composition entry in the menu?
No they don’t have it.
In this case the tracks are not recognized as being compositions, and this is why you can’t merge their compositions either. It the tracks have a composer, then this behavior is a bug. (If they don’t have a composer, add it and see if it helps).
See this post and the links to other threads below it, in particular the “Cat Power” post:
Oh I see. thanks for pointing out the possibilities.
I will check further into the details and see the credits towards those songs.
Thanks!
Unfortunately, as the Cat Power thread and the examples there show, there are bugs and for some tracks it just doesn’t work. Joel from Roon knows but we can only hope that this will be fixed piece by piece.
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I every now and then stumble on tracks or complete albums not allowing any composition links despite from having a composer assigned and everything. Do you know if this is a common bug?
A particularly weird case by the band ´Parcels: Their self-entitled studio albums does show all band members as composers and a composition page per track. The “Live Vol.1” album has the very same track titles and composers assigned, non is showing a link to other recordings of the same composition. A limited number of tracks is qualifying as compositions but ´Unknown composer´ was listed on the composition page despite from all band members being assigned correctly as composers. Most of tracks seem not have a ´go to composition´ link at all, I assume those which are actually compositions with several recordings.
Is this the bug you mentioned?
Yes I’m pretty sure it is. I see it often. Unfortunately, it’s particularly prevalent with my second favorite artist, who unfortunately has a habit of releasing lots of home studio tapes and regular releases over the decades with other versions of songs, so it would be particularly helpful if the feature worked. (That’s Howe Gelb and his universe with Giant Sand and others).
It’s possible that popularity plays a role - I believe it might have something to do with whether the online track metadata has a compression property, but I’m not sure if that’s true and, if it is, I doubt that it’s all there is to it.
In some cases, every track on an album has a Go To Composition and properly associated recordings, but one doesn’t for no obvious reason.
As mentioned there are many examples and attempts to figure it out in the thread I linked above and the other threads that are linked from there, by others before me as well. I was hopeful when Joel engaged for a while in the Cat Power thread but it petered out in the unfortunately too-common Roon way. Maybe it’s on someone’s list, but who knows.
In cases that are important to me I collect such tracks in a tag, and occasionally when I take a look I find a track that has magically gained the Go To Composition and links to other recordings. Maybe that’s a sign of improvement or it’s just the bug affecting different tracks at different times for no obvious reason.
What I find particularly aggravating about it is that there even exists some magic ingredient for making a track a composition. Surely if a track has a composer it should always be treated as a composition and at least allow me to merge it with other compositions.