Playback stops due to slow download from SSD on Nucleus Titan (ref#USMH6K)

I don’t consider myself an audiophile, being deaf on one side eliminates that, but I did spend money on multi-channel equipment because I like the music coming from all around me. The multi-channel DSD capable Dac I have does play DSD 512 2 channel and DSD 256 8 channel and I have purchased some music files up to the max it can handle.

FYI, I did try the DSD 512 file with the HDMI zone that can play PCM Multi-channel up to 192/24 PCM.

The processing speed was 3.4x and it played fine all the way through.

But as someone pointed out it could take more CPU power to down sample DSD to DSD. I don’t know. In my case the DSD512 was converted twice, DSD to PCM then PCM to 192/24.

If I tried that with DSD 256 5.1 the processing speed is 1x, it plays for a while then started skipping and quits.

Downsampling as per OP

With MUSE components

DSD512 > 64

All on WiFi :scream:

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There is a very straight answer to this rhetorical question: Because I am getting a DAC that plays DSD512 natively within a month; and because PS Audio makes DSD512 available for their DSD256 files, with Paul McGowan saying DSD512 sounds best if you can play it natively. I remember days when one could play only red book CD on most hardware - in retrospect, it was a good thing to get the highest resolution material as soon as it was available, to play for 10, 20, … years on :slight_smile:

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very interesting - thank you for reporting this!

maybe different DSD512 files require different amounts of processing?

it will be interesting to see what Roon say …

Hi @Andrej_Sali

I tested with all the tracks on the album I selected and all gave the same processing speeds.

I sadly feel it is the Titan at odds here.

What’s the make/model of the SSD inside the Titan?

That is interesting. What hardware is your server running on?

My SSD is Seagate 870 QVO SATA III 2.5" SSD 8TB (MZ-77Q8T0B), purchased in 12/2020, from Amazon, for $840. I used it in Nucleus+ before I upgraded to Titan, but never tried it with DSD512 before.

I don’t have any other DSD512 albums to try.

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Titan, latest software.

I should also say that my library on the internal SSD was transferred from Nucleus+ to Titan, per Roon instructions (the SSD was not reformatted).

I did notice that when I dismounted the Titan’s internal SSD from my Mac laptop (from which the DSD512 files were copied to Titan), it took about 30 seconds instead of 10 seconds for playing to stop, as if slightly less load from not having to worry about the remote SSD mount did indeed extend the valiant Titan’s effort to play DSD512 files. These 10 and 30 second playbacks until failure were pretty reproducible in duration, including for different DSD512 tracks.

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Sorry, I mean Samsung, not Seagate.

A Lenovo M720q, i5-8400T, 16gb RAM

Running Rock

I also have a N95 based CPU mini PC, with 8gb RAM that achieves better than @Andrej_Sali Titan.

Sounds like something may be bad hardware wise. I’d be surprised if the Titan can’t deal with this if 6-7 year old hardware can. I guess wait for support to check in maybe tomorrow.

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Yes, I am looking forward to see what Roon say.

In case anyone would like to try a problematic file, feel free to download it from Dropbox here: link

I accept the challenge.

Downloading now.

@Andrej_Sali I’m playing that to 2 different zones at the same time, downsampling to both.

Both show

x3


@Andrej_Sali nice piece of music also :+1:

and nicely recorded, too.

well, thank you for providing a reference. i could not find the specs for Titan right away, to compare with your Lenovo i5-8400T, 16gb RAM.

it will be interesting to see what Roon say.

Took the same challenge on my £375 11i7 a walk in the park

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Something can’t be right

to document my side a bit more, even DSD256 seems to require a significant load:

in contrast, playing DSD128 natively without downsampling seems easy:

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