Playlist folders

I used folders in iTunes a lot to categorize my playlists, which is currently not possible in Roon.

So hereby my request.

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There is no folder management system in Roon and this a very deliberate choice. However, Tags will effectively do everything you want. If not, there’s always Inspector (in Focus). Your request is a bit short, so perhaps I’m missing something, but in my experience the above solutions work very well.

hi @koen,

I don’t know the choice is “very deliberate”, where can I verify that?

I am fully aware of how to use tags and focus.
I tag tracks with i.e. moods/tempo and I use them to create playlists for occasions: party/dinner/holidays etc., (which folder structure I used in iTunes).

As I don’t delete playlists it becomes “cluttered” in the current way with dozens of playlists.

Hi @Paulb,

There are several threads about this on the forum, including one under Feature Requests, I suggest you start there:

Personally, I don’t have any experience with iTunes playlists, but there are several threads here about importing iTunes playlists. Also, this item in the Roon Knowledge Database suggests it might work:

https://kb.roonlabs.com/iTunes#Setting_Up_iTunes

Hope this helps, if not I expect someone else will chime in or flag support.

hi @Koen, thanks for your suggestions, appreciated, a quick look at the links seems it’s more browsing by folder structure on harddisk instead of creating my own folders within the Playlist section in Roon.

Paul

he’s asking for folders for his playlists, not folders for his files.

@Paulb – how many playlists do you have? are we talking about 10s, 100s, or 1000s?

a screenshot of your itunes setup would be very helpful

@danny, thank you.

Didn’t count them all, in iTunes I guess between 150 - 200.

i’m thinking about how to do this without creating an organizational mess of UI.

do you know about our filter option? upper right icon – or hit slash ( / ) on the keyboard then start typing.

Yes, i know about filtering (not hitting slash though, thanks for that).

With abandoning iTunes and entering ROON I was (and still am) (re-)considering what’s the best way of categorising my music collection. Tagging is almost perfect (I miss the operator AND in focus, when searching for tracks i.e. tempo Up + Electronic I get both instead tracks tagged Up + Electronic) and browsing that way is great.

Using software for years creates habits hard to break. Maybe renaming playlists and using filtering is an option, I’ll try it.

you can also tag playlists and then browse tags…

later we will extend this is even more crazy ways.

I’ll wait & see what’s coming, thanks for answering.

(As a side note: the interference and appearance of the team in topics is fantastic)

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I have many playlists. Similar to itunes, I would like the ability to create folders within my playlists so that I have fewer playlists to go through. For example, if I want 100 playlists, it would be easier if I can make 5 folders and then have 20 playlists within each folder. Is that possible in Roon?

Thanks!

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Unfortunately not. I do hope it will be added someday.

Hi Guys,
I would really love the ability to create playlist groups.For example all my jazz playlists under a JAZZ category …or my audiophile playlists under AUDIOPHILE.

Is this possible at present … I’m new to roon but can’t figure out how to do this.

ALSO:

Is it possible to get a folder view of music on my NAS?

hi @Nishan_Pillay,

There is a request for playlist folders.

But you can add a tag (i.e. PLAYLIST: jazz of PLAYLIST: audiophile) to various playlists. In the Tag overview you can through the funnel type PLAYLIST: jazz and create a bookmark. This way you can create a quick entry to all your playlists within the jazz category.

No folder view possible in ROON and please don’t mention folder view, :wink: again.
On the ROON community forum.

I wasn’t aware you could type that word into the forum…

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Folder view is slooowwly transforming to

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I haven’t seen that in a long time. Love Fawlty Towers. love John Cleese! And a silly walk as well!

thanks for that - lots of typing to do !

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So this was a discussion started in Sep 17, and has been requested in various ways on various forums since (my recent post tries, I guess unsuccessfully, to explain the need), and still no solution. Tags, focus, and so on are not a substitute for traversing a hierarchically organized tree. This is basic CS. The UI can be minimally impacted, compare the playlist space in iTunes with the available playlist space in Roon. (btw please don’t think I am promoting iTunes, ugh, but hierarchical playlists they got right, very right.) And the most basic feature of any UI should be to allow the user to do what s/he wants. Each individual’s organization of playlists is a manually curated labor of love, reflecting exactly how that individual wants to access his music. (And has essentially zero metadata errors; “essentially” because there will be some user errors, of course, but those get corrected over time.) Additional approaches are welcomed, but why kill the most compelling way some of us gain access to our music? Others could completely ignore it, using the UI the same way as before.

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