We need to ping @support then.
I mean there’s no “Remove from Library” option for Favourite albums added by Roon
(also see a previous post of mine, please)
Delete Album will remove a streaming version from your library and as a Favourite in Qobuz or Tidal. This may take some time to sync.
Can you scroll down in the window you have above?
no: look at the “framing line”
wait… … …
ooops: yes, I do
sorry Andrew (and all) :takingmycoat:
It’s alright. I’ve been fooled by the absence of scroll bars in Roon windows before. I wish they’d change it.
I don’t need scroll bars per se, but, I’d like an indicator to show either you are at the end , or that there is more to scroll towards ( a little down/up arrow on the side).
Hi @pl_svn,
There seems to have been a little confusion about Qobuz integration, so I wanted to address some of the questions and concerns you’ve brought up above.
Qobuz is integrated in the same way that TIDAL is integrated — The favorites that exist in your Qobuz library are imported to your Roon library. At this time there is no way around this and your Roon library will always contain all of your Qobuz favorites.
Just to clarify here, when you navigate to Qobuz > Qobuz Favorite Albums, this is a little different than viewing Qobuz albums in your library. Here’s why this is different:
In Qobuz, you can favorite both Tracks and Albums.
At its core, Roon is built around tracks. These tracks are added to your library and grouped in an album. This is true whether or not you have the entire album or you only favorited a couple of tracks from Qobuz. This is where Roon’s power really shines — You may only favorite a single track from Qobuz, but in Roon you get those tracks in the album they’re associated with, the artist who worked on the album, and other rich metadata beyond just the single track.
What the above means for you is that viewing your favorites in the Qobuz section is a bit different than viewing your actual Roon library, and so the options available to you are different. I agree that the option to "add to Library" should not be there because this screen is specifically about "Qobuz content being added to your library" - we are going to fix that.
If you wish to delete your Qobuz favorites, the best way is to enable “show duplicates” so you’re seeing all the content in your library. Then, focus on your Qobuz library as mentioned above and delete the Qobuz albums that exist in your Roon library. By using the file location Qobuz filter, local content will be excluded. You can then select the Qobuz albums you wish to delete/unfavorite all at once and delete them. You can be sure that it is only Qobuz albums being removed by reviewing the Are you sure you want to delete these tracks? window, as seen below:
As you can see, it will differentiate between local and Qobuz content so you can ensure that no local content will be removed.
I understand that you previously were using the Qobuz favorites as a way to mark items that you might want to add to your library in the future, and I wanted to offer some suggestions for how you can continue that workflow in a different way.
First, you could add content you’re interested in to a playlist. You can access this playlist in Roon but it won’t be added to your library. Once you listen to that content you can then decide if you want to add it to your library.
You can also use a tag to mark content that you might want to keep in your library. You can add the content to your library and then apply the tag — Note that only content in your library can be tagged, so it must be added first. From the Album browser you can then use Focus to filter out that content when you don’t want to see it, or focus on it when you want to go through that list. Once you listen to an album and decide if you want to keep it, you can either remove that tag or delete the album.
It’s a little bit of a different workflow, but you can still manage to do the same general process.
We genuinely appreciate the feedback we are receiving and we are investigating ways we can improve things, both in the near future and in further out changes to how our integrations work.
I hope this clears up some things about how our integration works. If you have any other questions please feel free to ask!
As in other cases, if you want to remove something from Roon but are afraid of accidental loss, I suggest Hide. Removes it, no annoying Are you sure questions, and you can get it back.
This is thrash basket semantics: you can rummage through the trash basket.
I have argued that this is how Delete should work, nobody wants a hard Brexit, I mean Delete.
But in the meantime, use Hide.
hi @dylan
thank you so much for your thorough explanation
though…
please re-think this approach as, as we are all seeing, Qobuz and Tidal are different in, at least, one key aspect: purchases! (but also in the way favourites work)
please: DON’T!!!
on the contrary: please change this so “Add to Library” is there, for Qobuz Favourites automatically added by Roon, also when browsing my library, not just when browsing “Qobuz section”
This would help (me) to:
- immediately know which albums were added by Roon, not by me and…
- in case I wanted any to actually be in my library… I might do it right away instead of having to search for it manually/visually skimming my “Qobuz Favourites section” (as “Search” always brings out the version in my library: the one without “Add to Library” button
)
also… please: make it so that when I add an album to my library it doesn’t also get added to my favourites (if it wasn’t already there)
once in my library if I want to mark it as favourite… I’ll use Roon’s “heart” and/or “pick”
yes, thank you: already seen how the above works. just… you know…
this is THE issue (here): I don’t want to actually add hundreds of albums to my library then, eventually, remove them: I’d like to go on, as I have been doing for years, only adding stuff I already have evaluated
thinking about it… I might agree having my favourites automatically added IF “date added” was the same I added them in Qobuz, not all of them the day Roon did!
(“By Date Added” was my preferred sorting order. Now my library as I used to know it is dozens of “pages” away )
oh, and… Qobuz Playlists: Roon should either add them to local ones and constantly synch them or do not at all (at the moment they are added during first synch then not synched back anymore )
thank you for listening
I’d like to keep the current consistent behaviour that I have got used to through Tidal and roon, favourite a track and it appears in roon.
this means you want to keep using both Roon and “something else” (apps, website etc)
I want instead to use just ROON from now on: this is the reason behind the changes I’m asking for
At the moment, although you can purchase albums from Qobuz (and, I believe, TIDAL, though I’ve not done this), there’s no purchase button in Roon - you have to use an app or web site to do this. Presumably you are asking Roon Labs to add this feature into Roon as well?
I was buying physical downloads with my previous “Sublime +” plan (CD quality streaming + discounted Hi-Res purchases) but… changed my subscription to “Studio” (Hi-Res streaming only) and I don’t need anymore to purchase downloads: I now just click “Add to Library” in Roon
(but still want to evaluate albums first)
I currently use the Tidal/Qobuz clients, when travelling, in the car, at work and when I favourite a track I want it to appear in roon, just like I do now. If I want to think about it, I add it to my Think About It playlist.
You want to change all the roon users way of working because you had a different one pre-roon.
I want to keep the roon way of working as I only used Tidal and Qobuz with roon so my method is roon friendly.
So add them to a playlist.
once more: just let users pick what they want added to library and everyone will be happy. as simple as this!