Roon 1.4 Feedback

[Edward_Lee]

Great update! Awesome to have iOS output.

Something that was annoying for me about the iOS apps before was that every time you switched to the Roon app (from another app) it had to reconnect and took several seconds (seems like a long time when you are flipping back and forth). Now it looks nearly immediate (maintains a connection I guess).

Unfortunately, my Roon setup is packed away due to moving so I can’t see for myself yet. If this is true though, I will be pleased as this reconnecting time was an annoyance.

[Dorwin_Shields]

Nice update!

Is DSP for iOS on the roadmap? I get the feeling all processing is currently being done on the phone instead of on the core as is the case with other endpoints. Is this correct?

Thank you

EDIT-- Thanks for the replies. DSP works! You just need to disable “private zone” on the iOS device and then you can configure DSP for the zone from a computer.

[DrTone (Jeff)]

I get the feeling all processing is currently being done on the phone instead of on the core as is the case with other endpoints.

I don’t believe they would one off iOS. DSPing would still be in the core.

[oneofmany]

My apologies Slim, I was going by the meaning from the English dictionary.

Potato, potato, let’s call the whole thing off.

Er, that doesn’t work either

[oneofmany]

There would be:

depth (how deep into an artist or other group to go);

breadth (how far afield from the core attribute to go);

whether to include only your library, only Tidal outside of your library, or both - i.e. for discovery, enjoyment, or both;

fast tempo versus slow;

emphasis on artists where you have many albums or weighting all artists equally;

hits versus deep cuts versus deeper cuts;

whether to weight past plays towards playback or to scrape the bottom of your collection;

etc.

These could be layered to make creating a radio like mixing a cocktail.

The results could be bookmarks that allow for a very quick but super curated radio playback. Even cooler, allow us to create and import graphics for bookmarks since they would then be somewhat like our personal mix tapes. We all decorated our mix tapes, right?

@James_I I think you should put this under Feature Request

[andybob (Andrew Cox)]

The DSP Engine is hard to fit into an iPhone sized screen, particularly the PEQ tool. So rather than attempt it, the DSP Engine doesn’t appear in the iPhone app. But all the DSP occurs on the Core, so you can devise a DSP setting for the iPhone Zone on any full-featured Control (disable Private Zone to see it) and the Core will send your iPhone Zone that processed signal. You just can’t edit it on your iPhone.

[Sunrise (Jeff)]

Also, I added an album to the queue while no music was playing… and got silence. I would prefer that my newly added music start playing in that case.

Now the Queue is non-destructive, just touch the Album “Play Now” button. One touch starts play and populates the future Queue.

[Rugby (aka Daniel or Big Dan)]

Or “Shuffle” which will Add the entire album to the queue shuffled AND immediately start playing. Basically a Play Now Shuffled.

[Sunrise (Jeff)]

Ios playback is it only for ipad

I could not succeed on iphone

I can play on my iPhone. Have you selected the Zone using the new Switch Zone feature? Start by touching the Zone icon on the bottom right of the iPhone Roon screen.

[Paula_Dickerson]

The IOS playback update would have been a nice surprise but iPeng 9 beat you across the finish line. Roon’s without question is much better integrated.

Danny can you explain if there was an SQ improvement and if so does it carry over to squeezelite endpoints. I had to configure my Schiit yggy gen5 usb as squeezlite rather than RAAT because they have buggy board.

Is this licensing issue with MQA something that will prevent Roon from having MQA unfold for the unforseeable future?

[Sunrise (Jeff)]

Needing to move tracks around in the queue to get around Roon’s queue modifying behavior isn’t the solution I was hoping for. If I have to move songs around, it’s easier to just play them one at a time and ignore the queue altogether, which is what I’d been doing.

I don’t believe the Queue has been modified at all. The tracks you choose to skip are just grouped together and can easily be expanded in the Queue View / “Scroll up to see previously viewed items”. This behaviour is desirable as these grouped tracks can be removed and the Queue saved to a Playlist.

[Sunrise (Jeff)]

Some might asked, “Why are skipped tracks grouped?” Answer, to make it easier to move them around the queue as a whole.

Totally agree Carl. The tracks are grouped because the User decided to skip them. Skipping tracks rightly puts them into a lesser category. Also, tracks in the past are greyed out to designate they have already been played. The new Queue functionality is great. Roonies please don’t respond to some negative feedback.
Great upgrade!

[andybob (Andrew Cox)]

The thing that impressed me was that no one asked specifically for this, but the devs listened to everyone and then implemented something better that we didn’t think of.

[dabassgoesboomboom]

The thing that impressed me was that no one asked specifically for this, but the devs listened to everyone and then implemented something better that we didn’t think of.

Well said. Super elegant solution.

[alec_eiffel (Rémi)]

New radio --> fantastic
New GUI for volume, play modes --> fantastic
Bravo!
Also pleased to see that the French translation is now quite good thanks to the efforts of @Patrick_LP @volpone @rv_kova and many others I forget here (sorry). We will further improve it, but @mike it seems that despite the translation database being 100% populated there are still several fields in English on many screens, see example below : “composed by” “performed by” “18 tracks remaining” “clear upcoming”…

[Sunrise (Jeff)]

What are Extensions John?

[andybob (Andrew Cox)]

Extensions are third party programs using the Roon API to do interesting things. The authors and students hang out in the Tinkering section.

[joel]

The thing that impressed me was that no one asked specifically for this, but the devs listened to everyone and then implemented something better that we didn’t think of.

Specification of solutions rather than problems needing to be solved is a common problem in software development. At Roon, we strive for that better solution which is both innovative and solves more than a single narrow use case, to achieve a better user experience. This means that, most of the time, we need to figure out the actual underlying problem from all of the invaluable feedback that we receive before solving the problem(s) creatively.

[AndyP]

Sorry…really dumb question as I don’t have an ios devivice (possibly yet)…does this update mean I can be away from home and access my music on an ios device?
Not sure what “ios playback” means!

[ncpl (Nick)]

WRT to different versions and Roon selecting the “best” who would you rank these for a single album ?

CD
CD remaster
CD deluxe
DSD
HD Tracks 192k
MQA
And
MP3

The only way to help Roon avoid the versions you don’t want to see on auto -play is or ban the albums. Do this by cycling through the favourite / love heart.