For a moment, I thought that was JRivers panes view. (but if it was, you’d have more flexibility).
One great new feature is the ability to quickly scroll through albums with an alphabetical slide on the right. This was something I always hoped would happen and makes finding albums on a mobile so much easier.
@Brandon. Yeah, 1.8. I admit that the shuffle limit would obviously be a problem for you. I have 25,000 tracks but can’t see myself ever wanting to shuffle as many as 5,000. So I hadn’t come across this problem. The other aspect of your problem would also be most annoying. I get that sometimes and sometimes not. I search for “Brahms” I get all the Brahms in my library first and then Brahms recordings outside of my library. So then I enter Beethoven 5th, and like you get all sorts of nonsense. But if I enter “Beethoven Symphony 5” I get reasonable results, listing from my collection first and then everything else, and mostly without any crap.
That’s not to excuse Roon. I can’t understand why a program as sophisticated as Roon , and a client base who are often generating massive databases, doesn’t have an advanced search function, with multiple parameters, AND/OR/NOT operators, etc. The same thing with Focus. It should be more sophisticated, with multiple search fields, AND/OR/NOT operators, etc.
So I guess I’m agreeing with you.
I had considerable problems first off with the 1.8 update. Specifically, when I changed the setup of one of my endpoints, it opened and saved fine, but then disappeared, and I had to reboot the server software to get it back. Other people seemed to have this problem with non-English installations, mine is English.
However, now that I have updated the core (runs on a NUC), and the various remote clients have updated themselves, all seems good. I’m finding things in the application I didn’t find before, and I like the interface.
I suspect it’s the case just a very small percentage of users would use it. Roon probably know the frequency with which someone does a search and starts playing something relatively quickly (i.e. a success). People have gotten used to how easy ‘Googling’ is. For better or worse.
I’m not defending the decision. I do structured searches on the National Library of Medicine all the time. I could not live with just a simple search. But I almost always start with a simple search first to see if I can get away with a fast answer.
Is the 5000 track shuffle limit intentional? Not being able to shuffle my entire library it a deal breaker, actually. Is this being reported as a bug? Is there official messaging on this? Because as much as love Roon, this alone could push me in another direction, unfortunately.
Okay this is being addressed and has an official response:
You might be cancelled if you say something against Roon 1.8. Can’t you recognize perfection? We users are not intelligent enough to know what we want.
Got it. Thanks a lot!
You can turn it on:
Settings → General → Customize album display
Thanks Arlen, but I’m not seeing a selection in the Custom Album display that allows for displaying the star rating on the albums when shown on the discography page. But it might just be me
I see… I thought you meant the heart. Were the stars visible in album view in 1.7?
Since upgrading ROCK to 1.8 I started noticing what I’ve found to be called ‘coil whine’ coming from my NUC 7I5BNH in fanless Akasa case.
Strangely, only when playing streamed tracks (Qobutz in my case), not with tracks in library.
I opened another thread here:
I never heard this until 1.8, so I wonder if this latest release puts the machine running the core under greater stress when streaming.
Anyone else noticed it? Any hints? (a fix would be even better! )
How I used ROON 1.7:
ROON: dicovery, maintaining streaming collection, playback/rating local files + Qobuz + Tidal
JRIVER: maintaining local file collection
How I use ROON 1.8:
ROON: discovery, maintaining streaming collection
JRIVER: playback/rating/maintaining local files
AUDIRVANA+: playback Qobuz + Tidal
The importance of ROON for me has dropped because they are not supporting file collectors.
Playback via UPnP/DLNA has better SQ than ROON. SqueezeServer/SqueezeLite has better SQ than ROON.
The “hype”? There’s no hype, it’s fairly basic: it’s a scrobbler, but because you have visual cues, you can scrobble very precisely. Or at least you could when the bar was full length, it’s trickier now. I use it regularly when I want to go back to a precise point in a song.
I question that.
It still works that way, just smaller, no big deal all though I liked the look of the longer one. It’s not often I drag through songs, I like to play a piece complete. If I pause a song in Roon, it picks up where it left off.
I did exactly the same with mine, pointless now!
Yeah the stars were visible when you viewed albums in the discography section… but now the stars are only visible after you click on the album.
Sometimes I select certain albums to explore if I see a high star rating…recognizing of course that this is highly subjective. But it was kinda fun.
Part of the issue I’m seeing is so much repetition.
For example, under the Tidal section there’s a menu bar across the top with What’s new, Tidal Rising, Playlists, etc. Good enough, but then when in What’s New, you’ve also got a Playlists section, which also has a sub menu across the top, and can expand in each of those sub menus. It’s exhausting. Why not just have a top menu Playlists page for anything playlist related, new and archived, etc; and have What’s New dedicated to exclusively new albums, add a top Level Tracks category and put all tracks there. If complete pages were deducted to just one thing under top level menus (a tab system essentially) then there wouldn’t have to be so much more clicking of ‘more’ or pushing of things one doesn’t need. All the same stuff, just separated and streamlined.
Same with the Recommended, Similar, and ‘If You Like So and So’ under an album. What’s the difference? Just pick one and go with it. More of the same doesn’t always mean better - to me it’s just extra work and overwhelming as one has to do yet more opening (which of course means more going back). Just pick one thing and make it the best. Sure, I want to go through ‘doors’ and discover new things, but I’d rather stand in an open plaza and have it come to me.