While 1.8 is a big milestone in so many ways the removal of Playlist and tag indications on tracks is a major issue.
Many users - me included - rely on playlists and tags (and favourites/hearts which were also removed on small mobiles) to organise their day to day listening experience with Roon. Years of work went into it.
Roon needs to bring these functions back as soon as possible. If optional - fine. People use the settings to tailor the UI - and the more the better.
It is really hard for me to be excited (in a positive sense) about the new look and feel of Roon 1.8. Why?
After only a few minutes I could find a lot of features that are not working or that âworkâ in a way that make me want back version 1.7! E.g., thatâs true for the new tag presentation. I strongly rely on tags being displayed in the album/track listings. Now I have to switch to the tag editor to see my tags at all.
Furthermore, because I have to install the English language package on my PC to have access to more than Roonâs GENERAL settings Iâm very disappointed about Roon 1.8. The more I work with this new version the more I will find things that are either not working at all or - IMO - make things even worst. There is a nice German word for such a kind of âevolutionâ: âverschliĚmmbessernâ.
So, Iâm waiting for Roon 1.8.1 coming soon (hopefully)âŚ
I also use tags a lot. I mean A LOT. Hours and hours of work have gone in to this.
Not only is it a major issue that tags are no longer visible in the album/track listing, but I canât seem to find a way to remove tags as well. Am I looking in the wrong place?
Reported this issue before but wanted to add my +1000 here as well. Track playlists and tags being displayed is absolutely critical for organizational purposes. @mike tagging you here (pun intended) in the hopes of getting some acknowledgment that weâre getting this back soon!
Could it be that Roon is increasingly moving towards a music player that âautomaticallyâ presents music to you? And less and less an app with which you manage your own music and make your own choices, given the fact that a decent playlist and tags management has been scrapped from 1.8?
Hopefully not!
Yes, that was what I am thinking too (or the UI/UX designer and Roon does not use tags and playlists at all). I have not seen any love for playlists and tagging since almost the start of Roon. Why?!
This was my main hesitation to buy a lifetime about 3 years ago.
I tried and used a lot streaming services and music âmanagementâ software in the past.
All those services and players decided in their wisdom to move in a way where simplification is the norm and in the meantime remove options for a cleaner interface.
I sincerely hope Roon is not moving in this direction!
I love to see this tread evolving so quickly. I 100% agree with what is said here.
The main reason I use Roon apart from HiRes multi-room streaming is the ability to manually manage my music library. I like to get a curated overview of new music and my own. But what makes my music my music is that i put it where it is, and in Roon this is done with tags.
Please: Do not remove features, believe it or not, users might have been using them!
You donât have to read the next to paragraphs.
My music listening process in 1.7:
Focus my library on my âListen Listâ tag, and sort by date added, because you cannot sort it via the tags tab. Pick an album thatâs been on there for too long. Listen to it (the best part). Open tag manager and remove âListen Listâ tag.
My music listening process in 1.8:
Focus my library on my âListen Listâ tag, and sort by date added, because you cannot sort it via the tags tab. Pick an album thatâs been on there for too long. Listen to it (the best part). Go to the âListen Listâ tag. Manually find the album, which can take a while because I cannot sort, and searching for it wonât show it in the tag view. Long press on it. Remove the tag on the three-dot menu. Takes about five times as long as before.
Why am I going into that much detail? Music listening should be fun. Managing it should also be fun, and it was. Roon is supposed to want me make listen to music, not make simple tags unnecessarily complicated.
Please just revert the âadd to tagâ menu on albums etc. to the âmanage tagsâ menu we had before. Thank you.
I like Roonâs âencyclopedia approachâ and the integration of TIDAL / Qobuz. But managing my own music (about 5000 albums) is the most important thing for me. If Roon were to phase out the latter, it would be time to look for an alternative. I have Audirvana as a backup music player, but it is just too simple âŚ
This is indeed an unpleasant surprise. I have been relying on playlists, tags and bookmarks. Roonâs library management was promising yet limited. Library management is vital for my use case at least. Having 40% of my local library as âunidentifiedâ, I rely on adding and moving tracks around playlists, tags and bookmarks.
I was hoping that library management features would be added, not taken away.
If this is true, then I come to the conclusion that they hate serious collectors which want to curate their own collections. This has already been a weakness of Roon, but now they seem to go more and more in the wrong directionâŚ
Yes. No longer being able to see all tags and playlists each track is a member of is a big big problem, which I really really hope is temporary. My cri de coeur on the subject is over here:
Thanks, that works.
But I would prefer the option to remove a tag from an album in the album view - feels more natural, especially with a lot of albums with the same tag.
Roon designers and developers are pretty much only Album and Artist users. Playlists have always been a second class citizen. Now tags have dropped off the radar.
More troubling is lack of comment. Iâm sure theyâre giving it a day or two to aggregate comments but still.