Roon 2.0 and internet connectivity [it's just like 1.8 now]

[franck_boissiere (franck)]

@danny

I keep saying it: Roon 2.0 requires an internet connection.

Worst design decision ever!
So now whenever my ISP has trouble (no so unusual) I can’t watch TV, can’t surf on the net, … and on top of that I can’t even listen to my music to relax while things get back to normal.

[Andrew_Webb]

How to Use Plex Media Server Without Internet Access

That’s how.

[Eddie_Draaisma]

Not happy at all with this huge regression!

I did the downgrade of ROCK core and remotes back to 1.8. Interesting thing is that shortly after that, ARC still worked with music files I am sure that weren’t played through ARC before. It took several minutes for ARC to stop working. Huh. The v1.8classic remotes still have the Roon ARC submenu in settings. So 1.8 has disabled ARC functionality??

[Formula]

Roon 1.8 Legacy - How to stick with Roon 1.8

Roon 2.0 is here, and with it comes some exciting new updates to the Roon platform - including Roon ARC, our mobile app for remote listening - free and exclusive for Roon users. However, we know not everyone will want to - or will have the capacity to - upgrade to Roon 2.0 straight away. We know some users will want or need to ‘hang back’ from 2.0, at least for a little while. So alongside Roon 2.0, we’re also giving users the option of sticking with Roon 1.8 - should they choose to. In this p…

Roon 1.8 <-> 2.0 Migration FAQ

[miguelito (Miguel Barrio)]

I predict that Roon will rework the software to avoid the “only works with an internet connection” design. A design where no hyperlink works without internet and a minimal player works locally would make sense to me.

[AndyR (Andy)]

@Nyquist

Roon 2.0 refuses to play local files while internet is down.

Have you tried it and know for sure it doesn’t work in your use case?

[Suedkiez (Just a fellow user like you)]

@mikeb

People have been asking for an improved search feature, so now its cloud based.

They didn’t ask for it for any price

[AndyR (Andy)]

Ha! I suspect if you asked a dozen users who wanted ‘Roon mobile’ what they wanted it to do you’d get twenty different mutually exclusive answers…

I’m sort of disappointed that Roon actually did it at all. And not at all surprised it’s not working the way many seem to want.

[SukieInTheGraveyard (This one time, at Bandcamp... I spent too much money!)]

I would advise everybody to try to play local files without an internet connection. Obviously you need to disconnect the internet and leave the LAN in place.

We’ll have to wait for more concrete information from the Roon Team as to the exact nature of the changes in 2.0 regarding this issue. I’m expecting more details as to exactly how long 2.0 works without internet (notwithstanding the fact that it works with limited functionality).

I’ve actually installed 1.8 Legacy as I have no need for ARC. I installed it as a clean install and it works fine. I’m happy to use this for as long as it’s supported, by which time (hopefully) the issue of offline access will be sorted!!!

[Nyquist]

Yes, otherwiseI I wouldn’t have noticed it. Internet was out again for about 1,5 hour yesterday and Roon stopped working.

[sergej_teregeshev]

it’s contract break:
if whatever happened to roon - my investitions bricked.
ultimately bad idea.
please make some dead-hand-tumbler for that case – I want possibility to use my library without over-internet roon services…
PS lifetimer

[mrvco]

I’m running Roon Server on a Mac Mini. With my Internet connection disconnected, I am able to continue playing from my local library without issue as long as I don’t restart Roon Server (minutes at least, but who knows for how long). If my Internet connection is disconnected and I restart Roon Server, I get a pop-up asking whether I’m connected and Roon Server will not start.

It doesn’t necessarily ‘need’ to be 30-days, but there definitely needs to be some sort of grace period here where Roon Core can reconnect and play locally from my local library if there are connectivity issues (local or otherwise)… hours would be ‘good’, but ‘days’ would be even better.

‘ARC’ is a nice-to-have (at best, considering the significant overlap between my local FLAC library and what is available on Qobuz, Tidal, etc.), but being able to stream locally from my local library is a must-have, otherwise there isn’t much point to having Roon.

[ToneDeaf (Ozzie)]

@mikeb

None of my data is mine anymore. Only need to fart for a server somewhere to log it these days.

yes, it smells bad

[miguelito (Miguel Barrio)]

I think Danny would suggest you have the power to change that… MOVE.

[Nyquist]

I don’t need any “If you don’t like America, go live in Russia” kind of answers. This is serious criticism and waving away criticasters isn’t of any help for nobody.

[miguelito (Miguel Barrio)]

My point is that the design decision from the Roon team is so incomprehensible and tone deaf that it makes me wonder why they would make that decision.

I will venture they got enamored with the concept of “cloud based” to the point of completely shooting themselves in the foot. I simply cannot understand who would sign off on such a bad design decision.

[Joerg]

Welcom to the bubble

[John_Girgis]

@wintoid

Can I ask, we’ve previously talked about what happens to lifetime subscriptions if Roon go bust… if there’s now a flat-out requirement for online services for Roon to continue to operate, does that now mean that if Roon go bust, the lifetime subscribers will also be unable to use the software?

I have the same question so would like to bump it up.

And would also like to toss in my vote that this is a not-so-optimal change. I have internet that does cut out for a day at a time every now and again.

I feel like Roon ARC philosophically lines up with letting people access their music on their terms. After all, for those who stream the most, the services already provided some kind of app, so in my head those with large personal collections benefit the most from ARC. A bit weird to me that Roon philosophically moves towards improving people’s access to their own music in one direction (remote) while making it more difficult elsewhere (locally).

@miguelito

My point is that the design decision from the Roon team is so incomprehensible and tone deaf that it makes me wonder why they would make that decision.

I will venture they got enamored with the concept of “cloud based” to the point of completely shooting themselves in the foot. I simply cannot understand who would sign off on such a dead brain design decision.

This is a bit rude, dude. Dissatisfaction is fine, but going over the line will at best make people not read legitimate criticism, and at worst make them dig their heels in deeper.

[Joerg]

My winter construction site will be setting up a Euphony server with Stylus Player. Is not as comfortable as Roon, but sounds better.
After the disaster with the first month after the release of version 1.8 and the current 2.0 release with the missing offline functionality, I’ve had enough with unpopular surprises from the Roon team.
Roon, I’m sorry, I can only say goodbye.

[cmr600]

not going to upgrade to 2.0 until this ins confirmed I’m afraid…