I figured that and it really isn’t a big deal.
This request is a little out there, but what do you think about a voice assistant for Roon?
This video got me thinking…
One of the things I like about HEOS is that it provides basic voice control and that works with RHEOS. (Play, pause, stop …) for Alexa and Google Home.
Selecting groups and playlists via ROON is hard but I was thinking about better integration with HEOS favorites for example …
I was traveling all week and came back to a RHEOS system working perfectly despite my wife’s attempts to break all week.
Hi @peter_richardson been a while, but I am back and back to setting up RHEOS again to my Marantz Model 40n. So reinstalled it again all working except the autoplay delay. As I mentioned a while back it doesn’t change a thing for the amp whatever setting I set the delay to it starts playing in Roon after exactly the same amount of time which is about 5 seconds, which is basically as soon as I hear the relays click on the amp during power up. I don’t have Deep Harmony installed so it’s nothing to do with this. This is one last piece of the puzzle for me.
What is strange as I have been using LMS for last month and using the UPnP plugin and the settings used in that for it to work well are different to that of RHEOS as I needed seek after pause on where with RHEOS I don’t. Any way that’s of little consequence I feel to the power up delay issue. Be great if we can work out what it’s not doing.
Also Airplay seems to be broken again with the extension active. With it disabled it all works
Let me know what you need from me.
Welcome back!
It’s been so quiet - I’ve been exploring the whole LMS 2 UPNP code and realize Roon interfaces very differently - hence some setings may have no effect…
Not sure why the auto start isn’t working for you - are you using the power switch rather than the play button to start?
I’ve been avoiding looking at airplay with the recent issues with the main ROON app and airplay2 but will explore again. I may ask you to test a couple of things.
No using play in Roon. It only alters it up to 5 secs as not on it starts a bit sooner after 5 secs it appears to have no affect. So perhaps it’s something with the amp feeding back. So press play it’s still paused, amp starts to come on, first relay click Roon plays but no sound as amp not finished powering up and switching input.
Okay Airplay does seem to work but a bit odd. I think having the Airplay input in Roon active wasn’t helping and confusing it moreI have been just using Airplay to test it out as LMS was using UPnP so would make it go screwy. But turned it off to test for longer period. Just tried to send Airplay from another app it worked but started to play Roon first oddly then disconnected. Tried again and it worked. This nerve happened before adding in RHEOS, so must the the device control things you added.
So the delay in starting to play only comes in when you toggle the power on using the power button 
(not when using the play button
)
Using the power button the device should switch on after a few seconds (when you hear the relays switch) and start playing after a further delay that depends on the overall time you select in autoplay. This avoids missing the start of the song when switching from power off. It does not affect play when the AVR is already powered on as this is not needed. I am not able to control the color of the power button to reflect the current on/off state, unfortunately.
No when I use the play button I don’t use the power button for on only off. Hitting play turns on the amp automatically over the network via any network stream as it has Network standby. I hit play in Roon it triggers amp on but starts to play in Roon too soon so clips start of songs. The delay only works up to 5 seconds anything after that it still just plays after 5 secs. The amp doesn’t fully power on so you hear audio for about 3-5 after this.
The delay does not affect the play button. You must toggle the power button.
Ahh thats where confusion lies then as that was what I wanted orginally when I brought up the idea was to delay from starting playback from off. Marantz has a network standby so prerssing play always powers up first then plays (albiet too early in Roons case)/ I always just hit play as I would with any other app or Roon Ready deivce which would power on and then play when its fully on. If pressing power on I would wait until its on before hitting play so negates it. Does this feature actually powerup and then automaticall play then when power button is used in Roon app?
Looks like I’ll have to go back to Deep Harmony as I can set a delay in Harmony remotes for powering on before it sends other commands.
Yes. That was what I have indicated repeatedly. It my be possible to build something in the play button but as most HEOS devices do not power off I am reluctant to introduce this given that this is very stable and working as described.
Deep Harmony will be at your risk - we’ve been down that path before. I will not support solving any issue - the last issue cost me many hours of frustration.
What issue was that?
It doesn’t have ip control of the amp if that’s what you mean here only ir and then only for volume. All the rest of the functionality is from fake Roku device which is ip controlled to then trigger Roon via the external control api. So isn’t any different than using the app. The harmony hub would also be turning on the amp as part of its macro I can disable power operations for that in harmony app if you think that was causing problems with overlapping power commands.
It’s the interaction with the source controls used by Deep Harmony that is the issue. Its a blalc box and the originator no longer seems to be supporting this.
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Hi,
@peter_richardson : I have did an update to the latest RHEOS version at my Synology NAS. Unfortenatuly the container crashes constantly after some time of use. What could be wrong here?
You will need to share some more information with me than this!
Please capture your log file from the Synology and share how you are running this at least.
A good starting point would be to power down the NAS and restart. That often corrects things without knowing what the issue is!
Thanks
Peter
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@peter_richardson got the start up delay working the way you said it works. I will just have to change my habits of how I do things I guess.
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I’ll see if I can create an option for a delay with the play button if powered off.
No promises …
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Hi Peter,
thank you for your support. I do start my NAS daily with a fresh boot. I have now deleted all old authorizations in Roon and did create a new container. Maybe it helps. Otherwise I would send you the logs.
Enno
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By the way loving two way control with my remote. Thanks for figuring all that out.
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