Roon freezes with track position indicator bouncing and queue not loading (ref#4QKX9J)

What’s happening?

· I am experiencing freezes or crashes

How can we help?

· I am experiencing freezes or crashes

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· Other

Describe the issue

Roon got stuck transitioning to the next (last?) track in an album. When I tried to look at the queue to see the past/future, I noticed the track position indicator bouncing back-and-forth. The queue never loads, and I can't toggle the play/pause button. I can change zones, but trying to look at those queues also does not show anything. Roon is effectively frozen.

Describe your network setup

All Ubiquti hardware, everything connected via Ethernet

Hey @Steve_Kalkwarf,

Thanks for sharing your report! It looks like we’re having difficulties enabling diagnostics on your NAS - can you please use the directions found here and send over a set of logs to our File Uploader? Once logs have been uploaded, please let us know so that we can check the server for your files, thanks!

Also, does this issue occur no matter the file format you attempt to play?

I have uploaded Steve_Kalkwarf.zip to the uploader site.

99% of my files are ALAC (the one that played last definitely was). I have no idea what it’s stuck trying to play. The display shows “[Untitled]” but when I look in the filesystem there isn’t a corresponding file.

If you meant can I not play specific formats, at this exact moment in time, the play controls don’t respond to clicks for the “stuck” zone, and trying to play anything in other zones also does nothing.

I’ll be restarting Roon momentarily.

I take it back. After rebooting I can see there are two “[Untitled]” tracks:

One is suspiciously short, the other suspiciously long. Probably a ripping error?

Hello @Steve_Kalkwarf

Is this album was ripped by you? Do you see this files directly into your music folders in your file system?

Can you please take a look at Settings → Library → Clean up library do you have anything to clear there?

These tracks were a “conversion” of an SACD .iso file into ALAC tracks, using XLD. When I look on the server, I do see tracks 12 & 13 are the two files, 1.2MB and 384.4MB.

Looking at the ISO, it appears the embedded playlist has a “gap” track, and then jammed the bonus material into one bigger track.

Clean up library said there were 142 (I think) files no longer available. I went ahead and let that run.

Hello @Steve_Kalkwarf

Based on the file sizes you’ve provided—1.2 MB for track 12 and 384.4 MB for track 13—everything looks consistent in Roon. The fact that they appear as [Untitled] is likely due to incomplete or incorrect metadata after the SACD-to-ALAC conversion.

I’d recommend checking the metadata tags in these files and confirming that the track title, album, and other relevant info were correctly preserved during the XLD conversion. Fixing the metadata should make the tracks display properly in Roon.

That all makes sense. However the problem I’m reporting is that Roon hung transitioning tracks, and needed to be restarted.

Hey @Steve_Kalkwarf,

Thanks for the follow-up! We’ve run into similar issues in the past where Roon has a difficult time handling very short tracks (under 10 seconds or so) and so, if you temporarily remove this short track from your queue, do you run into the same issue?

There is some internal discussion taking place around this, and I should have more to share soon.

We’ll be monitoring for your reply!

Oh, like this problem? Song "hangs" Roon [Ticket In]

Hello @Steve_Kalkwarf,

Thank you for the update.

Yes, this does appear to be the same issue you mentioned. To confirm, could you please remove the short track from your library and let us know what happens afterward?

I can confirm that playing the same album, Roon hung after playing the 3 second song (Track 12), before starting the 22:32 song (Track13). Deleting the 3 second song, and restarting Roon, I was able to play Track 11 then 13.

Hello @Steve_Kalkwarf

It might be helpful to have the file(s) for testing on our end as well, can please upload the original files here and let us know?

https://workdrive.zohoexternal.com/collection/nqcgjac23027d90a441bda2c314de49d7958a/external

Upload just completed.

Hi @Steve_Kalkwarf !

Thanks for sharing the tracks with us.

We’ve passed them to QA Team.

In the meanwhile, would it be possible for you to record a video on your phone or screen recording of how you reproduce the issue and upload it too by the same link as above ?

Thanks!

Regards.

Queue those three songs sequentially, then play. It will hang transitioning from the 2nd to the 3rd track.

Hi @Steve_Kalkwarf,

Thanks for sharing the files. After further review, we can confirm it’s indeed the same issue we have a long-standing ticket in for.

We’ll check with development for any updates and see where progress can be made.

We’ll be in touch with more information as soon as we can. :folded_hands:

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