I can see in the Tidal help article that new releases may not appear on Roon straight away due to the timing of generation of Roon’s TIDAL database.
Even knowing this, it is frustrating that new releases (such as happened today with the new Dry Cleaning album) are not available on Roon when they are on Tidal.
Since most releases (in the UK at least) happen on a Friday, is timing of generating the Roon Tidal database optimised to catch new releases ? Also, why can new releases not be made available straight away with limited metadata taken from Tidal with the Roon additions mentioned in the article (recording dates, lyrics, links to composers, credits, etc) being added later ?
As someone who likes to listen to new releases ASAP this is quite a draw back and the additional metadata is not an important factor on release day.
New Releases for You on Roon always seem very slow to show new releases of interest. I am less concerned about that (as it is generally too unreliable to be useful) than just to be able to play a new release via Roon from the artist discography.
Actually what I’ve now noticed is that if I go to the artist page (in this case Dry Cleaning), stay on the Overview tab then scroll down to Recommended Albums then click Latest, I do see the new album (Secret Love).
However, it still does not appear on the Discography tab for the artist.
This seems to be an inconsistency entirely within Roon.
What is even more bizzare is that a new album (hamnet soundtrack) released today by Max Richter does appear in his Discography but not from the artist Overview, Recommended Albums, Latest tab i.e. entirely the opposite behaviour of the Dry Cleaning example.
I came to this thread with the same frustration, not just the delay but happened to also be the new Dry Cleaning album. I’ve listened via TIDAL direct and have the vinyl copy on the way but this is a real issue that prevents me from strongly recommending Roon to an interested friend - it will be the first thing they notice.
And I know everyone is just trying to help out, but there is far too much normalising on this forum of Roon’s deficiencies.
TIDAL / Qobuz have zero issues syncing and displaying releases on release day. In fact if a major streaming service couldn’t show anticipated new albums to their users on release day they’d be out of business.
I’m not saying it’s an easy problem to fix and to some extent their hands may be tied slightly by what Tidal/Qobuz will provide out of-the-box without some arm twisting, but as the saying goes, where there a will there’s a way.
Frankly this is basic functionality you’d expect from a premium music platform.
If these kinds of issues really can’t be addressed due to limitations imposed by Qobuz / Tidal then the whole question of Roon’s place in the market — esp. in the face of improved functionality from the native apps and their ‘Connect’ support — starts to come into question.
I for one would love to see Roon survive, I still really enjoy using it, but I have now reached the point where, like Ian, I’m not sure I can recommend Roon to new users, especially when the native streaming apps now largely ‘just work’.
(…anyway, sorry, rant over, just needed to get that off my chest, enjoy the weekend all!!!)
Quite possibly same for Qobuz, but why does it take so long for new releases to appear properly ? This is quite a significant limitation of Roon. Also see above, there are inconsistencies even within Roon on how new releases become available depending on how you navigate.
I was a Qobuz user before switching to TIDAL and it is a similar experience of delay but the TIDAL new releases page is a known issue (very delayed and hardly worthwhile sadly).
The really telling info in this thread is the discovery of the album if you know where to look (and I now know as a result of this). The irony of the example album we both couldn’t find is the title itself, “Secret Love” (groan).
Another Friday, and new releases are missing from Roon. For example, the new Craven Faults album ‘Sidings’ is there for me on Tidal but not to be seen yet on Roon. As above, I’ve seen explanations for this on the help pages but it’s not really good enough. I’m in the UK and it’s 9 hours since new releases would have appeared on Tidal. Surely whatever Roon needs to do could be scheduled overnight and been completed in this amount of time. If it depends on manual steps, then IMO this is a poor design and the releases should appear in Roon but with metadata that cannot come direct from Tidal being added later in the day.
Please can someone from Roon support comment as I feel this is a significant issue.
It is the same frustration for me that brings me back to this post, different album this time (PVA “No More Like This”). I tried the trick learnt last week with Dry Cleaning mentioned in this post but sadly this didn’t work this time.
Other explanations for this indicate that this is not something Roon can help as there is a dependency upstream which is shared by many other services - I put this to the test today using a trial version of Audirvana and sure enough there it was. Fridays are such a fundamental part of a new music enthusiast’s week that the frustrations mount each time, especially as it can be shown that it can be done by Roon rivals.
My message to Roon is that if the current method isn’t working, please take inspiration from others and replan how you implement this important feature.
Yep, I had same issue with the PVA album earlier. Both Craven Faults and PVA have now appeared for me but whatever Roon are doing to add new releases is either taking too long or badly timed. It’s certainly not unreasonable to want to check out new releases on the morning they are available.
I had to use the method you highlighted last week that picks it up when in limbo since you mentioned you can see it. For ref:
Find the artist PVA > Discography doesn’t show latest
Click Overview, scroll down to Recommended Albums and select Latest and the album exists.
I don’t think it was there earlier, but can’t be sure.
Adding the album ‘+’ as a favourite has just come back with “This album has been deleted” with a “Browse albums” button which takes me back to all my albums. Trying again (whilst playing it via Roon) and it shows “This album was not found”.
However, it is successfully in my Listen Later and can be selected and plays.
Yep, what a shambles of inconsistency. This perhaps suggests that update of more than one database table is involved in adding a new release and that they are not all done at the same time.
It does feel that way. I’ve just logged a support ticket as I don’t think this is getting any visibility as it wasn’t raised via that route even though it is under the category of support. I plan to point the ticket back to this thread as this describes the issue well and now the problem has moved on. We’ll see what happens. In the meantime, I’m enjoying Craven Faults for the first time
