Adding my vote (without much hope, people have been asking for this for nearly 6 years I can see.)
I’d just like to be able to save a group I use a lot, but pick individual endpoints within it when I don’t want the whole group going (without manually ungrouping it, then regrouping it later.) I’m fine with requiring them all to be of the same type (RAAT, Airplay, whatever.)
Adding another voice to the chorus of plaintive requests.
In my case it’s frustration with having to group/ungroup 4x AirPlay endpoints depending on how I’m using them: I don’t always want music playing throughout the flat, but sometimes do. It seems like a pretty simple request to have either duplicate-able zones or non-destructive groups. The current set-up where zones are only either grouped or not grouped is a persistent irritant in an otherwise stonking product.
Hi All
Again a new Roon user - just rolled from the trial to a month by month subscription and I’d add my voice to this request.
I’ve only got 3 zones in play, but even then - considering Roon is all about convenience - the current grouping arrangement frustrates.
As has been mentioned this may not be the simple fix it sounds like but hopefully its on the developers roadmap.
Yet another request/plea for permanent groups for ROON Ready devices, appearing just like chromecast groups with the indiviual devices also available separately. Yes I KNOW chromecast groups are handled by chromecast and ROON is picking up the group delivered by Google Home, BUT why cannot ROON groups be as flexible.
Long term chromecast user who has just switched to WiiM Pro the minute ROON Ready was added. Don’t want to have to use the chromecast support in the Wiim Pro’s to achieve this result.
Adding my voice to this request as this may be a dealbreaker for us continuing our Roon subscription, which is saying a lot because I adore Roon otherwise and have convinced a lot of other people to try it out over the past few years.
We currently have a three-zone set-up and the need to constantly ungroup and regroup is already a considerable pain to deal with. I find it actually makes me use Roon less than I would otherwise, meaning it gets in the way of me enjoying my music, but I’ve been willing to put up with it for now. The potential dealbreaker is that we are moving soon to a house that has 7 rooms pre-wired with speakers. Add in our stereo and a few other speakers and we are looking at at least 10 zones. We will definitely want to play music through the entire house at times; in just a single zone at other times; and in smaller zone groups at yet other times. There are also times that we will want to play different things simultaneously in various zones, grouped or otherwise e.g. playing one thing in a zone group of the kitchen, dining room and living room while playing something else for our kids in the family room. Having to group and ungroup zones constantly with this many zones and variations is way too cumbersome and a really poor user experience.
I just can’t see using Roon as our home system without a way to manage zones and group zones that doesn’t involve the need to group and ungroup constantly. I really, REALLY do not want to ditch Roon so I am really hoping to see this feature gap get closed in the near future.
First: Multiroom is for me one of the best and strongest functions in ROON.
I have 4 devices in 4 rooms that I can combine with each other. But depending on the situation, I want different combinations: e.g. living room and kitchen, office and kitchen, kitchen living room and bathroom…or, if a big party takes place, all rooms. (Or, of course, individual rooms…)
At the moment I have to connect one combination at a time and then separate it again. I find that cumbersome.
I want a feature where I can save and recall different combinations just like the individual devices and provide them with an individual icon. That means, any combination of rooms appears in the device list and can be called up and edited from there.
That would be a kind of “situation mode” that has been around for a long time in smart home applications!
What do you think about it?
Best regards, Lorenz.
I suggest you add your vote to this existing feature suggestion 
Na klar, auf alle Fälle…ist schon geschehen!
Super wenn es hier Leutw gibt, die sich WIRKLICH auskennen! 
Of course, in any case…it’s already happened!
Great if there are people here who REALLY know their way around!
Until roon add the feature, I expect there is a way to do this with home assistant integrated with roon.
Basically with home assistant you can dynamically group and ungroup endpoints. Combining this with a ‘trick’ might give you a way to do this.
If you’re open to run a home assistant instance, let me know and I can talk you through what I think might work.
I’ve merged your request into the existing thread. Don’t forget to add your vote by clivking the Vote button at the top of the thread. Thanks.
@GregD - if you’re up for it, you could create a “how-to” post in the #tinkering category for this? I run Home Assistant in our house and would be interested to see if that could be used to provide a workaround for managing Grouped Zones. Thanks.
Hi Geoff, thank you for this idea! I’m not a complete newcomer, but I’m not a professional either. So a few questions: this seems to me to be the source for the home assistant! Correct? Installation - Home Assistant
How and where can I install it and how does a ROON integration work? I have the ROON ROCK on a NUC.
I’m looking forward to a guide and will be happy to try it out and get back to you!
Best regards, Lorenz.
Yes, that’s the installation page for Home Assistant. You should browse the Home Assistant site and user forum for further instruction on setting up HA - that will be off-topic for this Roon forum.
@GregD made the Roon integration for HA, and the details are here:
I suggest that you spend some time browsing the HA site and forum to learn more. HA is very good, but very comprehensive and has a learning curve. But the community there is also helpful.
I will write something up.
If you want to experiment yourself before I do, the idea is:-
Enable a roon endpoint that doesn’t play anywhere (eg an HDMI endpoint on a NUC). I expect most of us have these! Call it something like “Study and Bedroom Group”
When you play something to this endpoint - HA will notice, and so you can have an automation that responds to playing this zone.
So when the zone starts playing - use HA roon integration to group the real zones you want to play with this player, eg “Study” and “Bedroom”. Obviously sound will come from the ‘real zones’. You do this with the HA join service - details here: Media Player - Home Assistant
When the zone “Study and Bedroom Group” stops playing - ungroup it (with the unjoin service), releasing the “Study” and “Bedroon” zones.
You should be able to set up a few of the fake zones.
I’m sure there are some nasty details. You need to stop your ungroup from responding too quickly (use the HA for command on the trigger) because grouping can cause zones to pause briefly. And if you want to avoid it messing up other zones that are already being used you might want to check if other zones are playing before joining them.
I have something slightly similar in my house. Some of my zones have sound bleed - and it can be annoying if two zones are playing the same thing (in our case usually BBC radio 4).
So I have an automation which groups players. There is a code fragment here which joins the shower to the kitchen player if the kitchen player is playing the radio.
- conditions:
- condition: state
entity_id: media_player.kitchen
attribute: media_title
state: BBC Radio 4
- condition: state
entity_id: media_player.kitchen
state: playing
sequence:
- service: media_player.join
data:
entity_id: media_player.kitchen
group_members: media_player.shower
When I get some time I will have a go properly!
Being new to Roon I innocently asked if this was possible, not realizing that it’s a feature request that’s been outstanding for over 6 years. I just added my vote (now 108). It seems like an easy feature to implement (maybe I’m being innocent again) that has been wanted for a long time. Has any reason been given for it not being done yet?
+1 here, like to save grouped zones etc…
+1 from me too… 7 years after the first suggestion, a solution should be offered by the leading audio software company, shouldn‘t it?
Well, this suggestion thread is a follow on to two others from 2016, see 2nd post of the thread for links to those. So, I would say 8 years.
For me, the question is, why, after all these years doesn’t Roon at least respond to requests for a feature that is so needed/desired? Is it something that seems easy, but really isn’t? Why not say so? Why the silence?
Just adding to the chorus here - it seems like a very obvious feature request to choose to play to one endpoint or to play to a group of endpoints that contains that one endpoint. In other words, play to the living room or play to the living room, dining room, and kitchen. Super easy, super valuable. It’s puzzling that this isn’t in the product yet.