Showing (off) your Roon setup - description and photos [2021 .. 2022]

Obviously is a preference - you are not right, I am not right, you are not wrong, I am not wrong. Nor is it about how to go about it - I am beyond capable technologically, so definitely know how to do that efficiently, reliably and without overspending - the hallmarks of “knowing your stuff” ! :smiley:

Why do I prefer it? Well, my guess is my brain looks for separation of concerns… and is somehow justified in the sense that good stereo sound for music is indeed a very different application from sound for movies with different requirements and technologies.

I like movies, but could spend weeks without watching one - or TV. I LOVE music. Again, given that they are different applications I rather spend my money exclusively on something I love than split the improvement into something I like but that don’t really care that much about…

Or maybe I just don’t wanna… :smiley: (hehe)

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I’m very late to the party here; sorry - too many hours spent dying in Elden Ring recently…

We have our 2ch system (Quad ESL57s + Atera) in the same room as our HT (ancient Denon 7.1 + B&W M1s and sub) setup.

Serious music listening is reserved for the Quads, but I do have a small collection of surround sound albums, so the HT system is required for those. In addition, we will use the HT system for background music most days…

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What are the non-MacIntosh units on the left and right of the monoblocks? Do you use tubes on mags sometimes?

Those are custom made VTA SP14 preamps I built with several upgrades to stock (film capacitors, precision resistors, etc). For several years, I built all the Tubes4hifi tube power amps and a number of their preamps, probably 100 builds in total. Usually, I run the McIntosh MC275s as 180 wpc monoblocks driving the PBN Montana EPS speakers (89 db efficient), and drive the Maggie 3.6rs from the 450 wpc McIntosh MC452. My listening room is 40’x20’x18’, or 14,400 cubic feet, so everything really comes alive.

But I often switch things up! Interested in an excellent all tube preamp? :slight_smile:

Thanks for asking,
Bill

It is all good. I sounded more argumentative than I am. Everyone should have whatever approach they feel is right for them.

It is just that from my point of view it is an odd stance, as I really think there is no difference between what is needed to reproduce music or movies. I know that is a common view among sound enthusiasts, but one I have a hard time to settle with myself.

I could see the need to separate the two out of practical reasons more than ideological ones, having maybe both the space and need (family members wanting to watch a movie, when another wants music etc.). Or that one simply loves gear and love having more than one setup (one could have several setups dedicated to only music listening as well of course). Or is disturbed by that ugly TV between the speakers.

It is the ideological reasoning I have trouble getting around. Well, “trouble” is a too strong word here, but you get my point I think. :slight_smile:

I followed the same logic as you - and never looked back.
Transformed from a hybrid 7.1 into pure 2.0 stereo setup(s) dedicated for music,

added a 5.1 Dolby Atmos Soundbar dedicated for TV and movies plus Philips Hue Sync Box and Hue Gradients which give me full audio-visual immersion into the movie.

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+1 for Elden Ring! I hope you enjoying it. I am getting near the end on the PS5, and might get a copy on the PC, and now, back to the music…

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The sound must be big and so enjoyable in that room. Nice setup indeed. I love the look and sound of tubes, especially when system matched correctly. In my system, I would be more interested in a set of tube monoblocks, which should match well with the digital (Leedl) vol control/preamp in my current DAC/Streamer I now have. I’m a little afraid of tubes though…in the sense that I always fear my tweaking tendencies with get out of control with tube rolling.

For now, I would be content with a tube headphone amp…I listen to headphones so infrequently, I wouldn’t be tempted to roll.

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Look at the Tubes4hifi M125 125 watt monoblocks, great amps and price.

I know the “objective measurements” crowd generally doesn’t like tubes, but here are some “subjective” reviews that may be helpful:

Best,

Thanks. Will do. With your experience, this advise is valuable to me.

Hello to all,
Here’s my HiFi-Setup. Not the most acourate but sounds good. Sorry, description is in German.

—> Quelle im Schlafzimmer: iMac als Roon-Core (Retina 5k, 27“, 2019, 3,6GHz Octacore),
128 GB RAM/2 TB NVME/7,68 TB SSD, MacOS 11.6 Big Sur an La Rosita Netzkabel
mit Akiko Audio Tuningstick. Extern mehrere Thunderbolt 3 Raids.
—> Musik-Software:
Roon 1.8 Server mit 756.000 Titeln (ca. 34 TB), davon 650.000 lossless.
Steuerung im Wohnzimmer über iPad Pro 2017 12,9“ und Roon 1.8 Remote
Alternativ: Audirvana 3.5 mit Voxengo MSED v3.0 PlugIn und Audirvana Remote
Voxengo MSED v3.0 PlugIn zur Mitten-/Seiten-Live-Encodierung.
Alternativ: iTunes über La Rosita Engine 2.1 auf iMac 27“ 2011 für Streamer La Rosita
Omega V3; Steuerung über iPad Pro 2017 12,9“ und Apple Remote App

—> Musikübertragung via Devolo Magic LAN an Router Fritzbox 7590
mit Beci RouterWizard/Soundbox

Netzteil Uptone Audio JS-2 an La Rosita Netzkabel; alles im Flur

—> Via Devolo Magic LAN weiter an Streamer La Rosita Gamma HD;
Stromkabel Shunyata Research King Cobra V1i
—> Über 0815-Cinch-Kabel an Abacus/AudioVero AcourateClean
Linetreiber mit Decodierung des M/S-Signals-Basen
—> Vorstufe: Wyred4Sound STP-SE Level 2
Netzkabel Advanced Listening Audio Cable,
danach mit A23 Y-Cinchkabel an
—> Endstufen: Spectron Musician III MK2 (V-Cap Upgrade, Super-Effect Bybee
Purifiers, Premium Fuses Upgrade) als Fully Balanced Monoblocks
(Netzkabel Advanced Listening Audio Cable 2)

—> Auditorium 23 Biwire-Lautprecherkabel
—> Lautsprecher B&W 801 SII auf Subbase Echo LS-Basen
Viablue SC6 Komplett-Kabelbaum frei verdrahtet an externen Northcreek Weichen bis
zu den Treibern
—> Analoge und digitale Cincheingänge abgeschlossen mit ACOUSTIC REVIVE
RCA short pin SIP8Q/Audio Exklusiv Silentplugs XLR
—> HiFi-Rack Lignolab “Die Bank” auf Subbase Echo LS & 4 Subbase Ebony-Pucks
—> Ankopplung von Endstufen, Weichen & Rosita über Etalon Spikes
—> Abkopplung aller Kabel vom Granitboden durch Bänkchen hinter HiFi-Rack
ruhend auf G-Flex-Schwingungsdämpfern
—> Stromversorgung über Vibex Powerblock an Netzzuleitung NBS Black Label III
—> Stromsäuberung über Akiko Audio Corelli Powerconditioner
an La Rosita Netzkabel
—> Endstufen, Vorstufe, Streamer & Linetreiber über Vibex Powerblock an
PLiXiR Elite BAC 1500 Power Conditioner

—> Separate Unterputzleitung Furutech FP-S022N Nano-OFC zur Wohnzimmeranlage
—> Separate Unterputzleitung Furutech FP-S022N Nano-OFC zum Router
—> Separate Unterputzleitung zu iMac
—> Wandsteckdosen FURUTECH FT-SWS NCF RHODIUM & HMS, AHP Klangmodul 4 G
& III mit AHP Feinsicherungen
—> Raumoptimierung mit diversen Bassabsorbern in Raumecken und hinter Lautsprechern
sowie selbstgebauten 1D QRD Diffusoren

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I think it is 5 or 6 years since I last posted my system here, when I still lived in Jakarta. Now I am home in England and live in Dorset. Having just taken delivery of a new rack made for me by a local cabinet maker, I had to clean everything, so it is a good time to photograph it, before it all gets dusty again.

I have streamlined the system, disposing of the P10 Power Plant and the (very fine) Ayre KX-R pre amp. The P10 seemed unnecessary now, and the pre amp was just being used as an ultra expensive volume control, since all source switching is done by the DAC, which also has a pre amp stage.

The DAC pre amp is inevitably relatively inferior, and definitely brighter, but still very good, and as my ears get older, a soupçon of brightness has some upside.

Apart from Roon on the ethernet input of the DAC, it takes a USB feed from the local PC, and a toslink feed from the TV for cable and free to air viewing.

So the system is now simply:

Ayre QX-5 DAC / Pre amp
Ayre MX-R monobloc power amps
Dynaudio Confidence C4 Signature speakers

Power cables are MCRU Ultimates and signal cables are Chord Sarum Tuned Arays. Power is from unswitched Schuko sockets on a separate spur installed when we renovated the house before moving in.

The isolation platforms for the speakers and power amps are by Sonority Design. The DAC just has sorbothane pads under it.

Tunes come from upstairs on an i7 10th gen NUC running ROCK with an 8TB SSD via the home ethernet network and an EtherRegen switch. Local control is from the noiseless NUC between the 2 power amps plus a backlit wireless Corsair keyboard with track pad. The local NUC is also there to stream video from a NAS elsewhere in the house, using JRiver.

Enough talk, on to some photos:

The traditional listening seat shot.

The room is about 10 metres x 4.6 metres, but with windows at each end, and it was appropriate for us to have the speakers firing across the short width. This means that they are closer to the wall than I would prefer, but the results are still very satisfactory.

The rack is solid oak, except the shelves which are oak veneered MDF, all stained and polished to be more in keeping with the speakers. It has centre legs to support the massive weight of the power amps, and all six legs have little wheels set deeply into them so the rack can be pulled out to give easy access to the cabling when required. The old rack had washing machine slider wheels, which worked but lacked finesse :slightly_smiling_face:


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Nice cock .:rooster:

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HT and 2chnl are two completely different implementations, different setups and on and on (IMHO). I mean you can listen to a soundbar for music and HT and that’s good enough if that’s all one wants.

If you come from the point of view that they are same, that’s cool too. Probably best for another topic/discussion though.

Fantastic! Well done

Thank you. It is often admired. As for the wooden … :shushing_face:

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I have a similar situation and have to say i prefer the SQ & soundstage that the configuration offers.

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Thank you. It was actually a great surprise when they were fired up for the first time, and I listened prepared for the worst. I was actually blown away that they sounded fuller and richer. Perhaps they needed more reflective reinforcement than I had thought. But the room is so different from the last one that it is not easy to draw any firm conclusion.

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Love those Dynaudios!!!

Here as well. :grinning::+1:

I remember reading something in Stereo Review (from the 1080’s) about benefits of long wall placement. It has worked well for me over the years in 4 different residences.

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