· I’ve had a smart playlist set up for a while now. Just a simple one of all my tracks marked as favourites. I’ve just noticed that none of the tracks I’ve marked as favourite today are being added to the playlist. I’ve tried editing it to refresh as I’ve done before. It hasn’t worked. So I tried completely deleting the list and recreating it. It still didn’t work.
I should add the tracks in question are my own ripped tracks directly linked to my Roon Core which is NUC running Rock. Core and remote devices all on the latest software version.
Tell us about your home network
· Nuc running latest version of Rock linked to network via ethernet.
A smart playlist built from favorites should update on its own, so the fact that new favorites are not appearing points to something we should narrow down.
To get a clearer picture, a few things would help:
Is the playlist based on a simple filter like "Favorite = Yes," or does it include any other conditions?
Are the tracks that are missing showing the heart as favorited everywhere in Roon, or only on the machine where you marked them?
In the meantime, please try toggling the favorite off and back on for one of the affected tracks, then give Roon a moment to sync and see if it appears. If it still does not, we may be looking at a playlist rule or sync issue on the Roon Server side.
Let us know what you find, and we can take the next step from there. Thank you!
Also, now the playlist isn’t showing the correct total number tracks in it. See attached screenshot of the playlist with the “edit focus” displayed. Different number of tracks.
Thanks for the follow-up! In your above screenshot, had you made any modifications in the track focus editor? If so, then it would make sense the playlist track count would not yet display any modifications made.
The logs also reveal something very specific here. Around midnight on June 3, your library grew from 12,107 to 12,125 tracks, 18 new tracks were added (2 new albums appeared too, and hidden tracks jumped from 28 to 37). These new tracks appear to be your recently ripped files.
The clue is in the search index logs. Searches for many of your local ripped tracks return zero results from the library search index:
LibrarySearchTotal Query 'Two Door Cinema Club - Undercover Martyn': Track Count 0
LibrarySearchTotal Query 'Paramore - Still Into You': Track Count 0
LibrarySearchTotal Query 'Blossoms - The Keeper': Track Count 0
LibrarySearchTotal Query 'Florence + The Machine - Dog Days Are Over': Track Count 0
These tracks physically exist in your library but the search index hasn’t fully incorporated them. Since the Favourites smart playlist (Focus) relies on the same indexed metadata to filter results, tracks whose metadata isn’t properly indexed won’t appear, even if you’ve hearted them in the remote. This is why recreating the playlist didn’t help; the index is the problem, not the playlist definition.
Let’s see if any of the below help:
Check the Roon Setting > General > Show hidden tracks and albums - is it enabled? If not, see if enabling it will show your missing content.
If that doesn’t help, In Roon: Settings → Storage → select your watched folder → click the three-dot menu → Force Rescan
Let me know if either of the above help, thank you! 👍
Thanks for the response @benjamin. Show hidden tracks and albums was already enabled.
I don’t have any of the songs you list in my ripped library and never have had so I’m not sure why Roon would be looking for tracks I’ve never had in the first place.
To clarify; it has made no difference. The smart list isn’t updating properly and the track count it shows is different to the count on the edit focus screen.
@benjamin I’ve found the issue. Smart playlists it seems will only include favourites from my own ripped files. The difference of 4 tracks between focus and playlist is that focus includes 4 tracks from Tidal and the smart playlist doesn’t. I didn’t realise smart playlists could only include your own files.
This shouldn’t be the case, smart playlists do in fact include tracks from streaming services, both favorited and not (depending on what filters you use to create the playlist).
Does this happen with newly favorited Tidal tracks in Roon as well?
If you sign out of Tidal in Roon and force a re-sync, does the same issue occur?
In the meantime, we’ll take these findings to the team for additional analysis. Thank you!
I’ve tested marking new tracks from my own ripped files as favourites and they seem to be getting added to the smart list but the track count in the playlist isn’t increasing when I add tracks. The track count in the smart playlist seems to be stuck at 209 tracks regardless of how many I add.
We’ve discussed this with our senior QA and development teams. The team is investigating some possibilities here and, as soon as that investigation is complete, we’ll be sure to follow up ASAP.
You have our apologies for the trouble here, and we’ve greatly appreciated your patience as we continue investigating this tricky issue. We’ll be in touch as soon as we can.
Just a quick check in to keep the thread open, we are still looking into this. Once we hear back from QA’s investigation, we will follow up. Thanks in advance for your patience.
The issue has changed. I’ve just marked 2 extra tracks as favourites (from my own files) and they have appeared in the smart playlist but the “date added” states they were added on 15th of May. I just added them now at 23.00 on 25th of June.
