Forgive me if this has been asked already re Internet Radio: Will the Roon Signal Chain report the bitrate of the incoming stream?
The new HLS AAC BBC live streams are working 
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Oh, really! Thatās highly advanced.
It currently doesnāt. Maybe @brian can be persuaded?
Itās something Iāve looked for in a web audio measurement tool and canāt find anywhere: a way to measure the bitrate of the stream that Iām listening to.
maybe your asking for something more complicated, but for example, I listen to internet radio streams at work via foobar2000 on my windows computer. foobar2000 tells me the codec (mp3, aac, ogg, etc.) & the bitrate of the stream Iām listening too. If VBR it even shows the changing rate as the song plays.
Thatās exactly what I meant. Not a Foobar user but good to know.
When I stream from Soundcloud, NPR Music, etc. I am curious about the compression of the audio, especially f I want to record it bitperfert.
This is perhaps a bit too generic, but as an internet radio noob Iām a bit confused over how to determine whats the best quality stream, which sounds like its going to be important if weāre typing URLs in directly.
From what I can gather, it depends on both codec and bitrate, and there are several variants (or more than several). So maybe a 64AAC will sound better than a 128mp3? Or not? Does anyone have a simple chart that could be posted as a guide?
I can see why Roon are going down this URL road - to give users a feature sooner than would otherwise be possible - but I have to say (and I hope Iām not speaking out of turn here) even before itās released I get the impression its not really going to be āin lineā with the āRoonā way of doing things - which is to take the user way from this sort of stuff and present music in a slick, UI and metadata rich interfaceā¦.
Like so much else in Roon, user feedback is going to count for a lot, so give it a try and if itās not up to scratch, let them know how to improve it.
Obviously radio streams donāt contain the metadata Roon can access through Tidal, so we shouldnāt be expecting the same integration with music streamed by Internet Radio.
Of course Iāve not seen it yet, but from what Iāve read in this topic it just seems like the usual Roon standards havenāt quite been applied to internet radio. I guess I just imagined Roon would take internet radio - as provided by the likes of TuneIn etc - and make it ābetterā or more āRoonlikeā, doing something quite unique with it, rather than sharing streaming links on this forum for example.
As one example, when other streaming services have been discussed in the past, the Roon guys have been pretty adamant that unless they can get full cooperation from a provider that would enable a solution theyāre completely happy with - at least being as good or better than, say, their Tidal integration - then its a no go. Perhaps its just been deemed that thereās no point holding back for a fully-fledged internet radio as its not a big enough feature or whatever, so was just curious as to whether this more relaxed stance could be taken in other areas - i.e. if thereās demand for features/services that wouldnāt provide the āfullā Roon experience in the first version, we could at least have it in that state, rather than not at all.
Again, Iām not knocking the idea of having a feature sooner if thereās a demand for it - and it sounds like this approach to radio will keep many users happy (and is perhaps all anyone wants) - but it just seemed (to me anyway) like a bit of a departure from āthe company lineā so to speak.
Still, Iām looking forward to v1.2 for so many reasons other than internet radioā¦
I donāt think youāll be disappointed with the Internet Radio implementation, but itās a fundamentally different beast from a music streaming service. Roon canāt create bit rates or metadata where it doesnāt exist. A lot of folks have been asking for Internet Radio and itās about to arrive, but itās Internet Radio, not a metadata rich hi-fi stream of the same music Internet Radio happens to be playing. Maybe the latter will be possible one day, but not in 1.2.
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Most internet radio stations broadcast the artist-track metadata though. Is there any reason that couldnāt (optionally) feed into oneās history and be clickable?
Iām sure that there are loads of reasons! Less flippantly, I think it would be possible, but the scope for ambiguity is probably quite large. FYI, currently there is no metadata for the BBC HLS streams.
No thatās right the BBC are currently ādoing their thingā, which is a bit odd because they do broadcast the information on DAB.
In all honesty thereās a lot more pressing stuff to work on than putting lipstick on the pig that is internet radioā¦itās got nothing to do with hifi and cannot currently be enriched the way a tidal stream or your own collection is. That said, Iām sure the interface will be good, albeit lacking metadata.
I donāt think you could more more Rong.
Internet radio is a priceless form of music discovery, and I Scrobble it today to capture artist-track info to later delve into in further detail. It seems like a natural extension of Roonās capabilities.
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Yeah, I kinda agree. But I still get antsy whenever I have to leave Roon to listen to something. Roonās streaming Radio feature will keep me in the app. I listen a lot at my desktop and between the browser tabs, Tidal, and Roon thereās a lot of stuff running. So when the phone rings, itās a semi-panic to find, pause and not merely muteā¦
Agree itās great for music discovery, but itās not hifi. Addressing things like metadata editing is imho much higher on the priority list than doing more than enabling addition of Internet radio streams.
Metadata editing isnāt hifi either!
Finding a track listened to via Internet Radio and playing the album through Tidal most certainly is hifi.
TouchĆ© ā¦ however, it goes to the heart of being able to explore a music collection in ways not previously possible. Metadata and how itās brought together sits at the center of Roonās value proposition.