We want your ideas for Playlists!

@joel, it might be interesting for roon to provide a weekly “top tracks on roon by genre” or “top albums”, showing most played, or most added to library, perhaps with the ability to filter by region.

should be easy to extract from the play data roon maintains on every listener.

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I agree, in general when users put something in playlists it is to listen to it more frequently. It is also more specific than clicking on a little heart.
So one more way to say that by helping users with better playlists, Roon would also help the development of better AI features.

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Not exactly, Robert. I am more thinking of moving towards playlists-based user-dedicated use of AI rather than having general playlists, that can look like one-size-fits-all proposition. AI with proper input could do tailored proposition to each of us, while benefiting from general knowledge.
I believe this proposition is more seductive.
Thanks anyway for letting us know about this Dutch playlist !
Regards
CD

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I see, that is a different proposition altogether. And more seductive indeed.

another idea would be to generate a playlist based on a playlist. Spotify does this with either it’s “Playlist Radio” feature, or “Create a Similar Playlist”.

in the former case, you’d want some understanding of the acoustic properties of the tracks in the existing playlist. the latter could be done w/ similar artist/track correlation. both are relatively easy to implement w/ the right data.

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Interface

  • Nested Playlists
  • Order playlists by most played / most recently played

Roon Playlists

  • Allow users to share Roon playlists publicly, on the forum or website.
  • The above could include automatic and manually created ‘guest’ ones, published by Roon directly (ie. weekly guest playlists, top tracks, new tracks, genre introductions) along with some editorial selection of the best playlists that week.
  • Recommend above ‘Roon playlists’ based on your current playlists/library/listening habits.

Given Roon users by nature probably have better taste in music than your average streaming music site listener this could be a great resource and possibly a key selling point of Roon if done / managed well. ie. tap into this ecosystem of great playlists directly from within Roon.

Handling of 3rd party playlists

  • Better import / syncing from 3rd party playlist sources directly.
  • Allow synced playlist (loaded via Tidal/Qobuz) to find the tracks within your own Library, rather than Qobuz/Tidal.
  • Import of Spotify playlists. However much you may hate them, there is no denying that Spotify has the largest ecosystem of 3rd party playlists out there. If a music site does a ‘intro to Y genre’ chances are it will be presented as a Spotify playlist (over any other, with the exception of maybe YouTube). Ditto most 3rd party playlist aggregation sites default to Spotify. Would be great to be able to load those playlists into Roon in as few steps as possible.
  • Integration with https://www.mixesdb.com would be a nice feature, could possibly be handled by a cut/paste box into which you could simply paste a text based playlist.
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All good stuff… I like play counts of Playlists and sharing.

The tricky thing about Roon playlist sharing is some people’s playlists are of their local music, some on Tidal/Qobuz with different version licensing by region. So some sort of Discovery across the user base yes, but not sure how it would work.

Does this mean folders to group playlists? (if not, please explain)

Does this mean folders to group playlists?

  • Nested Playlists

Yes, folders / hierarchy / tags, could be implemented a few ways - just not one big list.

As for mixing local sources and streaming sources in a single playlist, that was another suggestion further down my list ie. allow playlists to find tracks (via fuzzy matching) in your local library followed by whatever streaming service you currently have enabled.

Ideally with a flag or visual indicator for any tracks that couldn’t be found in either source or a selection dialog were multiple options were found. Roon could even store the most popular matches centrally to aid future disambiguation. But that’s getting far too into specific implementation details for a suggestions thread. Bottom line it would be nice to have your playlists agnostic of a single streaming platform, without the need to use a 3rd party ‘playlist sync’ app or service like tunemymusic or soundiz.

If users chose to make their playlists public on the Roon website, then it’s pretty much an extension of the current Roon recommendation engine, but rather than new tracks being recommend based on existing track, it would be public Roon playlists recommended based on an exiting playlist in your Library. Visually it could simple be 2 or 3 recommended pubic playlists from other Roon users shown at the bottom of an existing playlist and an option to add each one to your Library. But again, probably not worth getting into implementation details at this stage!

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I’d settle for some more useful ways to sort playlists. The original and still current sort options are of little use in helping find a particular playlist other than by name.

Date created, date updated, date last played would be much more useful to me.

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one thousand percent!!

@j_a_m_i_e you might like some of my suggestions here:

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I’m a long time user of Mediamonkey and new to Roon. I loved the “smart” playlists I could create on MediaMonkey. I could easily create a list of 100, seldom played (play count <1), non Holiday songs that would automatically repopulate as play count went up. Can I do this in Roon ??

Not directly.
You can use the focus tool to select from your library and then bookmark the focus.

Hello Craig,
That is a very neat idea. I would love to be able to select pieces by composer AND musical key for example, that would be very great!

I had suggested some time ago that being able to cross selections by (adequately populated) tags, would be a very good way to select music. if a tag would be auto filled with musical properties such as key, tempo, minor or major, etc…, that would enable a universe of interesting comparisons!
Love that perspective, hope such concepts could gain some traction.
Best regards,
Christian

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And possibility to save a result in playlists of course.
Post Scriptum - Playlists and Tags must gain a nested structure possibility else it easily becomes unreadable.

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Roon’s ability with the metadata… to effectively have “cross functional playlists” would make for an awesome sharing/discovery feature. Add in the ability for people to “upvote” or thumbs-up a playlist would be great.

Whether the song is on Tidal or Quboz… or if from someone’s local collection, if it could not find the track and simply skip it.

I think if you use Decades for Playlist selection would do.

Hi,
When I was in Audirvana and iTunes there was a nice way to make a new Playlist. First I created a Playlist and chose an appropriate name for it. Next I opened a folder in the Finder (on the Mac) that should have a place in that Playlist and dragged this folder to the created Playlist. In this way I could add more files till my Playlist for that moment was complete. Later on I could return to that Playlist and add more files.
So I had a Playlist with music from India. All my music files are on different places on several external Harddisks. In the way I described they are brought together in an Playlist named India.
Thank you for ROON with her beautiful interface and appearance that becomes more useful and beautiful how longer she lives,
Stay in good health,
Michel Goldsteen

I would like to see an option for selected favorites added to the menu bar on left.

This is an good idea. Thank you