I would like to have following two things involving playlists:
Are any of the newly hired people playlist users? It seems after 4 years little has improved or changed with playlists.
To be able to delete whole album from a Playlist would be a great feature.
Or delete multiplus files would be great too.
Thanks
Antônio
Indeed one of the things that Roon could do and that would benefit many users, both streaming and non-streaming, is to enhance playlist features in several categories:
In the same line of thoughts, I see that tags can be used as a form of multiple list.
Tags display shows what we put in Tags. It would be easy to implement a display that would show the content of a multiple Tag selection : imagine you have a “Rythmic blues” tag and a “Beautiful voice” tag, both populated as you went through your library or online. Would not it be interesting to easily select what you put in both categories ? It could be used to create a temporary playlist (from 1 to N tag’s intersection), that you could save under whatever name…
So I am convinced that while playlists and tags features are currently under-developed, the material is there and it only waits for some efforts to bring it to a whole new level of functionalities, that could lead us to exploring both online and local content in novel ways.
Comments welcome !
As a footnote getting through this thread - which I had not done in a long time - I saw that a number of suggestions were already made by several persons. No problem, this can be considered as a recap for that.
Hopefully by gathering several requests at once synthesizes and gains clarity, so that it can improve responsiveness from Roon developers. Having been a developer myself although some years ago, and always involved with software, it seems to me that there is absolutely NO technical obstacle in making the aforementioned progress and others. Furthermore most of it should be fairly easy to design and implement, as far as I can judge from my understanding of required information structure for music databases.
You can already do this pretty easily, imho. Go to history, the playtimes are listed right there. Right click on the start of the play session, hold down the shift key, right click on the end of the play session, which highlites all the songs. Add to new Playlist. Then go into the playlist to do further editing.
Good, this I had tried long ago without succeeding but not recently ! But you guys can be a lot more ambitions, if you listen to what people (not only me) say in this thread.
Even if basic playlists aren’t the cup of tea of the software team, the type of evolutions proposed make it a much more potent tool, especially associated to tags on one hand and ML on the other one.
Thanks,
CD
It appears that Qobuz is offering something like this. There is a Dutch singles chart playlist, for instance, curated by Qobuz Netherlands.
@joel, it might be interesting for roon to provide a weekly “top tracks on roon by genre” or “top albums”, showing most played, or most added to library, perhaps with the ability to filter by region.
should be easy to extract from the play data roon maintains on every listener.
I agree, in general when users put something in playlists it is to listen to it more frequently. It is also more specific than clicking on a little heart.
So one more way to say that by helping users with better playlists, Roon would also help the development of better AI features.
Not exactly, Robert. I am more thinking of moving towards playlists-based user-dedicated use of AI rather than having general playlists, that can look like one-size-fits-all proposition. AI with proper input could do tailored proposition to each of us, while benefiting from general knowledge.
I believe this proposition is more seductive.
Thanks anyway for letting us know about this Dutch playlist !
Regards
CD
I see, that is a different proposition altogether. And more seductive indeed.
another idea would be to generate a playlist based on a playlist. Spotify does this with either it’s “Playlist Radio” feature, or “Create a Similar Playlist”.
in the former case, you’d want some understanding of the acoustic properties of the tracks in the existing playlist. the latter could be done w/ similar artist/track correlation. both are relatively easy to implement w/ the right data.
Interface
Roon Playlists
Given Roon users by nature probably have better taste in music than your average streaming music site listener this could be a great resource and possibly a key selling point of Roon if done / managed well. ie. tap into this ecosystem of great playlists directly from within Roon.
Handling of 3rd party playlists
All good stuff… I like play counts of Playlists and sharing.
The tricky thing about Roon playlist sharing is some people’s playlists are of their local music, some on Tidal/Qobuz with different version licensing by region. So some sort of Discovery across the user base yes, but not sure how it would work.
Does this mean folders to group playlists? (if not, please explain)
Does this mean folders to group playlists?
- Nested Playlists
Yes, folders / hierarchy / tags, could be implemented a few ways - just not one big list.
As for mixing local sources and streaming sources in a single playlist, that was another suggestion further down my list ie. allow playlists to find tracks (via fuzzy matching) in your local library followed by whatever streaming service you currently have enabled.
Ideally with a flag or visual indicator for any tracks that couldn’t be found in either source or a selection dialog were multiple options were found. Roon could even store the most popular matches centrally to aid future disambiguation. But that’s getting far too into specific implementation details for a suggestions thread. Bottom line it would be nice to have your playlists agnostic of a single streaming platform, without the need to use a 3rd party ‘playlist sync’ app or service like tunemymusic or soundiz.
If users chose to make their playlists public on the Roon website, then it’s pretty much an extension of the current Roon recommendation engine, but rather than new tracks being recommend based on existing track, it would be public Roon playlists recommended based on an exiting playlist in your Library. Visually it could simple be 2 or 3 recommended pubic playlists from other Roon users shown at the bottom of an existing playlist and an option to add each one to your Library. But again, probably not worth getting into implementation details at this stage!
I’d settle for some more useful ways to sort playlists. The original and still current sort options are of little use in helping find a particular playlist other than by name.
Date created, date updated, date last played would be much more useful to me.
one thousand percent!!
I’m a long time user of Mediamonkey and new to Roon. I loved the “smart” playlists I could create on MediaMonkey. I could easily create a list of 100, seldom played (play count <1), non Holiday songs that would automatically repopulate as play count went up. Can I do this in Roon ??