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SJB
Ah thank you, couldn’t imagine it was not there. You make my day!
As we say in Ireland
“tá fáilte romhat”
SJB
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There is definitly a place for playlists, and I think not having something that generates one automaticly is a weak point for the best music application that exists in the world today 
There are many times where I would want to put music on and let it look after itself in the background and not have to find something.
This is also a lot more complex to do than beats per mi ute and it also needs to be done properly to work.
There is an software application called beatunes which does a lot of clever work on tracks.
Roon should look at the software and either licence it, buy the company or allow for beatunes fingerprints to be used for automatic playlist generation.
This will be a great solution done properly…
Kasmenu
Please add album view to playlists. At present playlists are unusable if there are more than 20 albums in them. The list view is unbearable, honestly.
Thanks
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What is an album view of playlists?
If I have 3 songs in a playlist, A B and C, where A and C are from album X and B is from album Y, what you want to see?
in this case I’d like to see the artwork of X and Y. Usually there will be many more albums, each may be with complete or incomplete lists of “songs”.
By the way: your way of thinking is heavily biased by the contemporary tendency to zap through albums, playlists etc. My son does this also, but those of us in the forties/fifties/sixties who learned to listen to physical albums (LP or CD, SACD) like to listen to an album in its entirety and not jumping between songs and albums. This applies primarily to classical, jazz and other more challenging music. The idea behind is that usually artists/musicians compose an album by thinking about the sequence of tracks and their interrelationships in the same way as they compose the notes and bars of a single track. A symphony has 3 or 4 tracks (sets) that are clearly interrelated. The same is true for most good jazz and rock albums.
If you guys tried to understand the older generation, you would know that we are also interested in playlists that contain entire albums. Our way of thinking and feeling of music is different from the short-term attention span of the young. We (or I) try to capture the whole thing in a piece of musical art.
@WKW: I’m a lot older than you think 
The reason we asked about playlist feature help is that our team really never uses playlists… we are album or queue people mostly.
The idea of doing playlist of albums is foreign to me, not because I don’t listen to albums, but because I never listen to 5 albums in the same order straight. I usually have some type of focus that gets me to what I want and then I select-all or multi select albums and play/addtoqueue.
Your view makes sense if you are thinking of playlists of albums… I think we need grouping modes, so that common albums get clumped, and might as well go and do artists the same way.
Also, we also have to make features make sense for the case they are not primarily designed for… so although my a/b/c x/y example above is strange, it is a case that we have to support for when someone enable ‘group by album’ mode.
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Playlist requests:
Nice to Have - Start Playlist Playback from a Song:
for long playlists, helpful to be able to start in the middle of the playlist and have Roon play every song thereafter in the order listed in the playlist rather than having to start each playlist from the first song. So, I can jump to song 16, play that and then have Roon play songs 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, etc thereafter. One place where this comes up is for genre type playlists where you throw favorite songs of a genre into a playlist as you hear them and eventually end up with a long playlist. Regardless of the overall utility of this feature, it seems like it should be fairly easy to add to Roon.
Top Priority - Offline Listening:
Roon Core is installed on my laptop. There are times when I want / need to listen to a playlist offline. Tidal allows for offline listening. Would be very helpful to be able to listen offline to a Roon playlist containing both my hard drive tracks and Tidal tracks.
Offline listening is a major component of Tidal. That demonstrates the demand for and value of offline listening. Yes - for some, Roon is not as mobile as stand-alone Tidal. For others though, Roon is mobile (laptop installs like mine) and needs to be mobile. If Roon doesn’t support mobile, then you are passing up a revenue opportunity. Make Roon mobile (offline listening) and thereby motivate people to add a Roon subscription for their mobile platform (i.e. the laptop you take on biz travel, vacation, etc.).
Here’s Tidal’s justification for offline functionality (the following was copied from Tidal’s website).
Thanks for proactively soliciting playlist feedback and the overall great experience that Roon currently delivers.
Aloha, -Mark
Excerpt from Tidal - What-is-Offline-Mode:
With the [Tidal] Offline Mode, you can save music directly to your device instead of streaming over the web. This allows you to listen to your favorite tracks when you cannot connect to the internet, or when you wish to not use your mobile data plan. Both the album and all playlists can be saved for listening Offline. You can choose thousands of tracks. The Offline Mode works on all mobiles and tablets supported by TIDAL.
Here are a few good scenarios where offline content is particularly useful:
- Listen to music on-the-go and abroad without worrying about high data costs.
- Listen to music when you have a poor or no Internet connection, like in an airplane or when you are driving in places with poor cell service.
- Offline is energy efficient compared to streaming.
That can be done now.
Open the playlist and click an a track. Now you can play the playlist begining from this song.
Thank you! I originally tested this while the playlist was already playing. In that case, Roon played the song I selected and after the song, went back to the point in the playlist that was playing before I selected the specific song.
Based on your tip, I stopped the playlist and tried again and see that this functionality is the current default - a great thing.
Thanks again.
The ability to import my iTunes playlists, I have many, many playlists, and would love to only use Roon
JRiver Media Center’s Smartlists is the gold standard for playlists as far as I’m concerned. MediaMonkey offers similar functionality. They allow you to create playlists based on dozens of attributes so you can create pretty much anything you want if you put enough thought into it. I would like to see Roon incorporate this kind of playlist functionality. This is the one thing that prevents me from implementing Roon right now. If Roon offered the same kind of playlist creativity as JRiver I’d probably switch right now. Until this changes I’ll probably be sticking with JRiver.
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Can you give examples of things that can be done in JRiver that Focus/Bookmark won’t do in Roon ?
I’m going to try out the Focus feature first before I respond to that. I haven’t even installed Roon yet because my Auralic Aries is in for repairs right now. As soon as I get it back I’ll load the trial and try it out. I only posted this thread in the first place because I read on another thread that Roon didn’t have any playlist functionality built in. Dynamic playlists are an important feature for me so I wanted to know more about what I could do with Roon before I considered switching from JRiver.
Copying this from another thread for those who might miss the other thread
Just as an illustration to anybody who may be reading this thread, but unfamiliar with the Options within Focus, see the mock-up below
The top graphic represents the initial dialog that is shown when entering Focus…and anything can be clicked on…e.g. click on the “Years” chart to allow you to filter Albums between e.g. 1961 and 1967
The Grey boxes on the right expand out to the Options pictured below…allowing you to filter based on Performers, Composers, Labels and Format…as well as several other Criteria not pictured for Storage Locations, Producers,…or things like “Albums without a Review” or without Cover Art etc., etc., etc
Lots of very powerful filtering options worth exploring
In Roon, as you will see, the “smarts” are in the searches, which can be tailored through the Focus tools (these can be cumulative and inverted by clicking a + to a -, the logic is OR within a Focus tool and AND when grouping different tools). Once a Focus search has been defined, it can be saved as a bookmark.
When you retrieve a bookmarked Focus search it will dynamically apply the search criteria to the library as it is when retrieved.
From the search screen, you can “Play All” with Shuffle on or off or you can select tracks and add them to a playlist. A bookmarked dynamic Album selection, Play All with Shuffle on is a common approach.
A playlist is not dynamic and consists only of selected and added tracks, none are added unless the user adds them.
As set out at the start of this thread, Playlists are under review and suggestions/comments as to functionality are welcome.
- Better control over imported playlists:
I have a bunch of playlists that were automatically imported from iTunes and there appears to be no way to remove or delete them. The “Delete” button when the playlist is selected in Roon is greyed out. Even deleting them from iTunes doesn’t remove them from Roon. Even just being able to “hide” a playlist like you can an album would be an improvement. (EDIT: I disabled the iTunes folder in Roon and all of the iTunes playlists disappeared)
- Playlist Album View:
I’d like to be able to view playlists as Albums or Songs or possibly Artists, Works or even Genres. Basically I want to create a playlist of my 10 favorite disco albums (or whatever) and see those 10 album covers when I select that playlist with the option to switch to a song list or another view.
- Sub-folders / Playlist of Playlists:
In Spotify I liked the ability to create folders and sub-folders that contained sub-playlists. I could create a “disco” folder and sub-folders for “favorites”, “classics”, “discovery” or whatever so i didn’t have a hundred top-level playlists to scroll through.
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I’ve downloaded Roon and now I want to try out the Focus feature. My problem is that I’m only seeing a fraction of the detail you are showing in the graphic above (countries, genre, performer types). How do you access all of the other filters that you’re showing?