8th Generation NUC's announced

The 8th gen NUC’s have been announced. They are configured as follows:
Intel Core i3-8109U with 2 cores/4 threads, 3GHz base frequency/3.6GHz max turbo, 4MB cache, 300MHz – 1.05GHz GPU

Intel Core i5-8259U with 4 cores/8 threads, 2.3GHz base frequency/3.8GHz max turbo, 6MB cache, 300MHz – 1.05GHz GPU

Intel Core i7-8559U with 4 cores/8 threads, 2.7GHz base frequency/4.5GHz max turbo, 8MB cache, 300MHz -1.2GHz GPU

They are quite a step away from the 2 core 4 thread machines of the recent past.

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8th Gen includes this model discussed in the above thread:

https://ark.intel.com/products/series/129705/Intel-NUC-Kit-with-8th-Generation-Intel-Core-Processors

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I wonder if they will modify Rock to work with the 4 core models. Of course, I just purchased a NUC7i7BNH on Friday after researching when the new ones were coming out. Saw the article on the new ones this morning. Got a bargain price on Ebay, bought the lowest priced one than a 15% discount. Then my son and daughter bought the OS SSD and the storage SSD at 15% off. Received it today; it is tiny. I think I will keep it.

In the above thread I linked, @danny said:

That is 8th Gen, 4 cores.

I asked Danny if ‘work’ means officially supported (since they don’t always mean the same thing with ROCK) but didn’t get a reply.

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Some are also quite a step away in power/cooling requirements as well. The new 4 core 8i5 NUC is 28W TDP instead of the older 15w 7i5BNx models (2 core). It’s also worth noting that the 4 core 7i7DNx models are only 15w, though the CPU is 1.9GHz (4.2GHz turbo) vs the 28W 8i7 2.7GHz(4.5GHz turbo) and 28W 4 core 7i7BNx at 3.5GHz (4.5GHz turbo).

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Pricing on these have been announced, and the i7 version is $499.

Anyone (say the Roon folks) want to comment on the higher TDP/performance in comparison to the 7th gen for Roon usage? I’m thinking the 7th gen might be a better option, particular if prices drop some now.

Are the suggested ROCK hardware recommendations still current?

The 8th generation NUCs are widely available. And, Amazon (US) doesn’t stock the NUC7i3BNH system anymore. (So some of the linked page’s urls don’t work - eg. the 1-click link for the 7i3 system with RAM and SSD.)

I’m getting ready to order a system, and I can’t tell if the knowledge-base recommendations are obsolete.

Should I order a 7i7 as recommended, or put together a similar 8i7 system ?

One thing to be aware of with the new 8th gen CPUs found in the NUCs, almost all of them have much higher TDPs than the previous generation, so I’d expect them to run much hotter when running Roon than the 7th gen CPUs. That might also make them noisier and limit their ability to be mounted in a fanless case if that floats your boat.

The i7-8650U looks to be the exception, but is also expensive.

Edit, sorry, that’s already been covered above.

Mine will be in a back office (away from the stereo), in a case with a fan.

Danny

Does Roon Rock support these new 8th generation NUCs?

@brian - any input?

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Right, but that was two months ago, and the new generation is now out, with more power, and also higher power usage.

Noted.

For others that may not know, the NUC7i7DN** is part of the 8th Gen line also.

There is an issue. Apparently in a recent bios update, the legacy boot option has been removed. If you are on a later bios revision then ROCK will not work as it is unable to run on a UEFI only bios. Note that 8th generation devices are not on the official support list so following the advice of the official guide to update to the latest bios will be counterproductive on these latest devices.

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The NUC7i7DN** is part of the 8th Gen line also.

Are there plans to support these new 8th generation NUCs? Or, will we have to use Windows?

Hey Steve, see just a few posts up. I shared a link from brian that the NUC7i7DN** (which is 8th Gen…) is supported…

I’m ROCKin one in a fanless case. Very happy with RoonOS performance on this NUC. Should be ‘set it and forget it’ for a few years (I hope).

Hi Sean,

I’m referring to the NUC8I7BEH, which was just released. According to Henry,

“There is an issue. Apparently in a recent bios update, the legacy boot option has been removed. If you are on a later bios revision then ROCK will not work as it is unable to run on a UEFI only bios. Note that 8th generation devices are not on the official support list so following the advice of the official guide to update to the latest bios will be counterproductive on these latest devices.”

I’m asking whether there are plans to support this new model.

Bruce

No worries Bruce,

Putting the model number helps to make it clearer because quite a few people ask if any 8th Gen NUCs will be supported and maybe don’t know that the NUC7i7DN** is 8th Gen and is ROCK supported.

I’ll leave it to Roon to comment if the NUC8I7BEH will be officially supported.

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