Ah sorry, I thought you were.
Yes it is a nasty bug.
Its not a bug per se. Its highly dependant on if the operating system sends file system updates over IP most dont, they tend to work for local operations only. I very much doubt Android has this feature. NAS devices tend not which is why they dont update when attached over the network. Its not just Roon this affects same for Plex and most server applications, they will rely on the next full sync they perform and wont auto pick up any changes. In Roon i believe its default full scan is every 4 hours but can be changed in the storage settings.
Congrats on your order.
May I know what was the deciding factor not to go for Master Edition? I am still caught between this loop of base vs ME
I made my purchase thru Amazon and the Master Edition was unavailable for purchase. The Master Edition really had my attention.
Ironically this purchase thru Amazon was from the Amazon Eversolo store. One would think that the Master Edition would have also been available for purchase.
I also purchase the Eversolo BTR-12 Bluetooth Remote thru Amazon from Eversolo.
Do not know how many units were initially available today, but there was 7 available when I made my purchase. Came to this forum and made my post and then went back to Amazon which was maybe 5 minutes later and the rest were sold.
I do not know if these units are in high demand or if they just did not consider that they would be and are getting caught short because they are not available for long. I am surprised that the price is not creeping up because of supply side economics.
–MD
Seems a good unit for the price. I’ve had a scan about Roon controlling the volume on the page but not conclusive.,. Can someone please let me know if the DMP-A6’s volume can be controlled from Roon without using DSP volume? USB HID volume is the method I think. My old MyTek let Roon remote control the volume without loss.
The DMP-A6 not having a dedicated IR remote is the only thing holding me back atm, I hate opening a new app to control, but I did use Roon flawlessly with my Mytek and never touched a remote.
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Rob
They are back in stock this morning on Amazon. It is showing 28 available. Still no Master Edition.
Wonder how long this will last.
–MD
In general, I’d say no, as long as the A6 won’t offer any DSP functions for digital output like HDMI.
In about 99.9% of all roon cases using HDMI (not I2S) PCM is transmitted. PCM over HDMI is the only way to output audio with roon enabled PC/Mac like platforms which also include roon nucleus and all NUC/ROCK combos. DSDoPCM or DSDodCS are far too exotic to work with most renderers. This is important to know when thinking about listening to DSD and esp. DSD multichannel via HDMI with roon.
If you intend to listen to native DSD through HDMI I only know of the A6 which actually can do this. I have one and it receives multichannel DSD64 and sends it natively via HDMI to my AVR which detects the signal and renders it like a charm, just like from an SACD player. This is a not so common combo/use case, and I currently don’t know of any other (roon ready) device being able to do so.
My AVR is said to use a direct DSD DAC, without converting to PCM internally.
So, even in this case I’m currently not able to tell you in how far this combo for native DSD rendering does sound differently compared with a PCM conversion from a PC with roon Core. I have the A6 just one day, and I wasn’t able to listen to/compare DSD rendering, significantly, so far. But… it does work
If you plan to stay away from DSD but connect via HDMI, I’d spend the money for something else.
Thanks for the post and perspective @Matthias_Dauelsberg . Seems for me the A6 may not be of any sonic benefit to me
If you look for ways to improve your sound from a roon PC sending digital signals, you may look for a proper DSP file or create one on your own. I guess you use a stereo gear. In this case roon is able to make use of DSP files which usually improves SQ quite well. Usually this is done for headphones/IEMs for which you can find quite a lot of available files.
For stereo speakers you won’t find so many files since every room situation is quite individual. If you have an equipment for audio measurements already you can create such files on your own. This needs time and knowledge, but is inexpensive. You may use it with a digital or analogue output.
DACs, as the name says, mainly focus on improving sound when using analogue outputs. DDCs with integrated DSPs are rather rare devices in this context.
As i continue to mull over the idea of tossing a 4TB MMC into the Eversolo to act as a mirror/backup (and have the ability to play local files if the internet goes out), here’s a question:
If you’ve loaded music files onto the MMC memory (either the onboard or slot-added), do you notice ANY sound quality difference between playing local files from that memory (using the eversolo app) vs playing your local files using roon? (Assuming when using roon that those local files are on a drive/NAS that’s NOT attached to the eversolo?)
My A6 just arrived, and I would be able to test that, with e.g. WAV and DSD depending on the standard memory size of the A6 I don’t recall at the moment. My environment uses HDMI output. So, I wouldn’t be able to tell something about analogue output. All my roon filters are off, and the A6 doesn’t seem to offer any D2D DSP. That being said I would be surprised hearing any difference. Though, you never know in how far roon or the A6 have hidden DSP you cannot circumvent.
BTW, DGF on where your files are actually located. Makes no difference SQ wise. But carefully watch how your files are processed, through which software and hardware.
yah, less about where they’re located, and more whether there’s a difference between a normal roon stream and the files played directly through the eversolo.
True that upsampling/filters will affect the “all things equal” element.
I’m kinda assuming on my system and through my ears, it won’t make much of a difference.
I will definitely test it, maybe on the WE. But, since I already own a NAS with roon running I don’t see a need for a backup on the A6 for myself. But, you have to carefully judge the 4TB limit of the A6. If you plan to make heavy use of DSD files, this limit may break your neck, since DSD files are much larger than e.g. CD WAVs or FLACs. And then, you may start attaching more and more USB drives to the A6 what I’d see as a pure nightmare
A key feature of Roon is that there is no hidden DSP. Whatever you have switched on in Roon will be visible in the signal path to the endpoint (Roon DSP/MUSE or DSP volume). Nothing switched on makes it bit-perfect.
That’s what I’d expect at least
Roon shows everything it does in the Signal Path.
pretty much just ripped CDs to FLAC. Not even a single DSD file at this point.
EverSolo is certainly intriguing. The hope of being on par with HiFi Rose but at an Everyman price is alluring.
My hesitation surrounds its switching power supply of unknown quality and no reasonable way to upgrade the power supply. Not that a linear PSU is always better than switching as there are high end companies that utilize high quality switch mode PSU’s. But in my own streamer exploration I’ve found that the quality of the power supply can have a profound influence over sound quality.
In Darko’s recent comparison between the FiiO R7 with a linear PSU and the DMP-A6, he gave the sound quality nod to the FiiO.
It’s my conclusion that the EverSolo is a bit handicapped by the inability to upgrade its PSU which limits its giant killing powers and leaves HiFi Rose, Aurender and Auralic safe for now.
Does the A6 Master Edition not have a better power supply?
I’m not sure, perhaps. And if it does, the question becomes how good? EverSolo has invested a lot into their display experience.
In my direct experience a $500 Farad Super3 elevated my $400 iFi ZenStream to be on par with a $3000 entry level Aurender. That demonstrated to me how vital the power supply quality is.