Most inexpensive ALL-IN-ONE roon amplfier

itzlbritzl · October 23, 2019, 6:10pm

Sorry, I have not been here for a few days but i really appreciate your ideas. I will give you my opinion on a few of your suggestions, so it will be more clear, what I am looking for.

Not enough power to drive decent two way bookshelf my only 87-88db sensivity. And I dont like plastic in my euqipment Furthermore i am NOT looking for a smart speaker but an AMP.

2 boxes and still not power amp. with power amp about 1.500 €. i did not want to spend more than 1.000.

Have you ever heard it. I dont like the sound of sonos speakers, which kind of scares me away. the technical approach is exactly what i am looking for! but again: plastic!

Not enough power and not all-in-one at all.

I would need at least the C368 to have enough power. But with BluOS option well above 1.000 €.

Plastic, isnt it?

This is a simple power amp? When did i ask for that?

Yes, Lumin is VERY inexpensive.

Interesting! Thanks for that. Just about the suffiecnt amount of power. Worth testing.

I need a little power to drive decent speakers… NOT lloking for a smart speaker but a networked power amp with roon capability.

dito!!!

3.000€… too much!

May I ask, what kind of speakers you are driving with the power node?

Generally speaking: I am NOT looking for smart speaker. I am looking for a networked amp with full roon integration. No detours or limitations via chromecast, airplay a.s.o. I also want so be able to control volume with the roon app.

The best suggestions for my purpose have been Blusound powernode, Sonos Amp and the Elac DS-A101. But then again: I knew about those. the perfect solution would be something like those, but more powerful…

jmvdv · October 23, 2019, 6:16pm

@itzlbritzl Dit you check this one?

itzlbritzl · October 23, 2019, 6:20pm

Thanks… But not enough power and VERY ugly

Bill_Janssen · October 23, 2019, 6:20pm

No speakers, eh? OK, then I’d pick the IQaudio DigiAmp+.

I ordered one earlier this year, along with a Pi and power supply (the 19v model), plus the smoked case and the OSMC remote, and it all cost 117.43 GBP.

jmvdv · October 23, 2019, 6:32pm

So true

Rugby · October 23, 2019, 6:45pm

Actually, my NAD 3020 v2 or NAD 3045 plus the Allo digione, is a viable solution. In price point, and while 2 boxes, they are smaller together than just one of any of the others. Not only that, it is a solution I know works well, is robust, and can drive picky speakers. I had a set of 4 ohms plugged into the 3020 and it worked great.

Bill_Janssen · October 23, 2019, 6:52pm

The AudioPhonics amp already rejected as “not enough power” is also 2x30W (like the NAD 3020). Wonder what the power constraints are? The Digi-AMP+ is 2x40. The 3045 would probably be OK, though. Add a Pi 4 for USB input, and you’re looking at a total of less than $850, I’d guess.

Martin_Webster · October 23, 2019, 7:07pm

I have one of these and pair with good quality speakers sounds great; much improvement on my Bluesound Pulse Flex. I keep the case hidden away and have ceiling speakers.

Rugby · October 23, 2019, 7:07pm

The NAD’ D2030v2s can handle probably any speaker he wants to throw at them as I using it right now with 87 db/W/m sensitive tower speakers at 4 Ohms. (Totem Arros if anyone wants to look 'em up)

He’s seen the options. His best bet is the C368; so he either has to up his budget a couple hundred, wait for a sale, or buy used. All doable.

@itzlbritzl You might tell use what speakers you were planning on using as then we could not waste time in suggesting things that weren’t powerful enough.

Ross_Frank · October 23, 2019, 7:30pm

I have AudioVector M1 Avantgarde. They are bookshelf size, 8 Ohms, sensitivity about 88db.

oradba69 · October 24, 2019, 4:10am

This.

Geoff_Coupe · October 24, 2019, 6:57am

Phil, the selling point for me in having RAAT supported in this device would be the ability to include it in zone groups with other Roon Ready endpoints. Since it’s currently Airplay, it can’t be included, so I can’t have my music synchronised throughout the house and garden.

But very interesting to learn that ARCAM have plans…

Phil_Wright · October 24, 2019, 9:29am

I solve that problem by having a small house and turning the main system up

Fair point. I shall press Arcam on the topic at Ascot. On the one hand Roon readiness for a single device is probably costly. Re-use the development across multiple brands / products and it becomes more feasible I would have thought. And they certainly have scale - Samsung bought Harman for $8.5bn!

Rugby · October 24, 2019, 4:48pm

Now that looks nice.

Bill_Janssen · October 24, 2019, 10:15pm

Oops… Now it’s been sold.

Steven44 · October 24, 2019, 10:40pm

BLUESOUND Powernode here.

Cheung_Hon_Wah · October 25, 2019, 3:47am

Rose RS201

Cheung_Hon_Wah · October 25, 2019, 9:19am

also Yamaha WXA50 if you can settle on Airplay not true Roon ready, much cheaper

Phil_Wright · October 27, 2019, 9:47pm

I spoke to Arcam at the Ascot Show (great venue). Yes there are plans and there is development work underway. No timescales though. I don’t think it’s quite ‘don’t hold your breath’ territory, but it won’t be anytime soon.

Dick_Vliek · October 27, 2019, 9:51pm

Phil, what is the DadFi in your title? Are you gonna turn your kids into speakers?