Playback Issue with 192Khz/24bit Tracks via MELCO Switch S100 (ref#8YTJTQ)

What’s happening?

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Describe the issue

I’m experiencing some issues while playing tracks at 192Khz/24bit via Roon and using the MELCO Switch S100. The track starts but after few seconds stops and move to the next one. If the next has the same resolution the same problem happens…
When I play the same track via other APPs like the native Wattson Audio or LUMIN one I don’t have any issue ..
Which could be the problem ?
This is quite annoying in particular when I have DEMO sessions or events …

Describe your network setup

Swisscom router, UNIFI first expander, EE8 first switch and then MELCO S100 switch

Have you tried playback without the Melco in the chain? It might be worth a go?

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Sounds like a typical network issue on first glance. Roon is more demanding on the network than other apps and it’s quite typical that such issues that don’t occur with other apps are triggered by Roon.

  • How is the connection from router to Unifi expander to first switch, is this all wired?
  • Replace the cables one by one on each hop, sometimes a damaged cable limits throughput.
  • Try a direct connection from router to Roon Server and endpoints, leaving out the Unifi and the two switches. If this works, add the other devices back in one by one and test in each configuration.

Compare Simplify then Rebuild here:

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I have an EE8 and noticed the other day it was linking at 100mbs not 1gbps as advertised. I have a support query out.

I would also try simplifying the chain at least temporarily to narrow down the problem. Is the UNIFY expander wifi or hardwired?

100Mbps is good enough for one stream of 768kS/s 32bit stereo PCM or one stream of 192kS/s 32bit 5.1 surround sound assuming no compression (lossless or lossy) is involved. The actual PCM data rate of the 768kS/s 32 bit stereo stream in 48.152Mbps which suggests that it may be possible to carry two such streams on a 100Mbps link - however, TCP/IP overheads and the overheads in the streaming protocol itself make this unworkable.

Consequently, 100Mbps to an audio endpoint may be perfectly OK. My ARCAM ST60 only has a 100Mbps ethernet port anyway. However, I would not like to connect a Roon Server to a network with a 100Mbps connection.

As has been suggested above, I would try to pare the network configuration down to the bare minimum. PC/Mac if you have one separate to the Soon Server (for UI), Roon Server and endpoint all connected directly to the router using standard ethernet cables - not ‘audiophile network cables’. It doesn’t matter how it sounds to you with the switches and any fancy cables removed from the system. This is a test for reliability - not audio quality.

If the system is stable, add one item at a time until the system starts to fail - if that results in the fault recurring, then you have identified the cause of the issue. When adding switches, you automatically add another cable as well, so if the fault occurs, try replacing the newly added cable with a different cable in order to elliminate potential cable issues before concuding that the switch is faulty (or at least not working sufficiently well). Also try using different ports of a switch - sometimes individual ports can fail.

Yes indeed, I tried without MELCO (so using Innuos or EE8 or Reiki Audio) and I don’t have any issue anymore … why MELCO S100 is causing this problem is quite strange and annoying

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For the price of the Melco I hope you get decent support from them and they find the problem.

Other Melco users seem to have a similar issue depending on whether the 100Mbps or 1Gbps ports are used. The Melco is an unusual “audiophile” design in having both. Which port did you have roon connected to? Melco’s own recommendation for a roon server is one of the 1Gbps ports.

My MacBook (Roon Core) is not wired connected to the MELCO Switch. I will try to do some tests changing the port connection.

Hey @welcome,

Thanks for writing in! Welcome to the community as well, we’re excited to have you here!

From the looks of your thread so far, you’re getting assistance from some of the best here on the Roon community! We don’t have any additional steps to troubleshoot outside of what has been suggested to you already. Let us know your findings regarding the Melco switch and proper network speeds.

We’ll be on standby for your reply and results! :pray:

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Thanks @Benjamin for your message ! I will keep you posted while I’m testing the mentioned options.

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Hi @welcome,

Since some time has passed from your last post, I wanted to check in and see if you were still having issues?

Hello @benjamin thx for asking. all good so far. I connected my MELCO using only the Gigabits plugs. Let’s see if it lasts. Andrea

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Hi @welcome ,

Thanks for letting us know things are going well. Should the issue return, just let us know and we can take another look, thanks!

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