Roon & Spotify connect

[Tyson_Phan]

Hi there,

I am new to Roon so please excuse me for some noob questions.

I want to stream Spotify to Roon (unfortunately Spotify has a collection of music that I like). From what I can find on the forum, I need to have an “entrypoint” to connect to the Roon core / Rock.

So am I correct in saying that I need to have a separate Pi to act as the entry point which then connects to the Core via the library manager?

and is it Roon core or Roon Rock? or it doesn’t matter?

Thanks in Advance.

[bearFNF]

Spotify does not play through Roon. Roon only works with Tidal and Qobuz at the moment.

Spotify integration / update on this?

hello why there is no intent/initiative to integrate Spotify even user accepts the lower streaming quality? there is no better discovery alg so far… so why there is no action regarding the integration or is it some policy issue?

You could use a RPi and RoPieee XL to integrate spotify into your system but it would only be for that particular endpoint.

[j_a_m_i_e]

There’s no native / built-in ability to send external audio to Roon. A shame as it would be useful to be able to route non Roon sources like Airplay, Mixcloud and Spotify Connect though Roon in order to use Roon’s DSP and multi room features.

Sounds like you’re already spotted it, but you can use the 3rd party Entrypoints extension to achieve the above in a roundabout way. It works, but is slightly clunky to use as the input appears in Roon as a pseudo live radio station.

Entrypoints, the audio entrance to Roon, made the move to HiRes!

Entrypoints is a collection of Roon extensions that act as an input to your Roon system. Music from input devices like turntables, cd players and phones can be streamed to Roon zones and can use the Roon specific features like DSP. Entrypoints is the continuation of the development that was done for the CD Player extension. The CD Entrypoint is the improved version of the CD Player, making the latter obsolete. You can read about Entrypoints on its Wiki, make sure to also watch the Introduction…

Roon ROCK / Roon OS is an operating system that comes with Roon Core pre-installed, in fact that’s all that installed or can be installed on it. Think of ROCK / Roon OS an operating system like Windows, Ubuntu or OSX that purely runs Roon Core. That has advantages as it means there’s no OS to update or maintain and all maintenance is performed via a web interface, so no need for a monitor / keyboard or other means of remote access. Think of ROCK as a dedicated appliance like a Nucleus, in fact the Nucleus runs the same Roon OS as ROCK.

The downside is that you can’t run Roon Extensions (like the entrypoint extension) or the Roon extension manager on ROCK OS (as it only runs the Roon Core). So you’ll either need to install the extensions on another separate device like a RPi or NAS (ideally on 24/7) or install the Roon Core on a more general purpose OS like Windows or Ubuntu which will allow you to install the Roon extensions / Roon extension manager alongside it.

If you already have a NUC with Roon ROCk installed you can test out the extensions / Roon extension manager on a PC or Mac to start. Then decide if it’s worth buying a separate device to run it which you can leave on 24/7 or, alternatively, move away from ROCK to a more general purpose OS where you can run both the Roon Core and extension manager on the same box.

But before you buy any new hardware test the Entrypoints extension out on a Mac or PC. You may find it’s just too clunky to use long term (no offence to the developers of it, it’s s very well written and documented project - it’s downside relates to how it appears within Roon and the minor lag/delay that using it introduces, which is outside the developer of the extensions control).

There is also the paid-for RooPlay project which I think does something similar but might be easier to setup.

rooPlay - From LP, CD and iPhone to Roon

Dear Rooners, this is a great day for me as finally the long announced rooPlay is ready. With rooPlay you now can stream external inputs from various sources through Roon and use its DSPs. I’m so happy that I can now finally stream audio from my turntable to Roon via my phono preamp and my RME ADI-2 Pro, allowing me to use the digital room correction I have set up even when playing LPs. [rooPlay_Grafik] Besides this rooPlay offers a bunch of additional very smart features so you can … pla…

FWIW here’s a couple of previous posts I made about why Roon should think about incorporating this functionality into the core product and another on why allowing integration of Spotify playlists (not the streams themselves) could be a useful and sensible move for Roon long term.

ROON endpoints as Airplay receivers

Despite largely using RPi based endpoints that support AirPlay, I’d find this an immensely useful feature. Allow you to use Roon DSP Allow you to stream services Roon doesn’t support (MixCloud/SoundCloud/Podcasts etc) to non AirPlay endpoints via Roon Allow you to use Roon zone grouping with AirPlay Allow consistent volume control and limits (set in Roon) The fact that (some of us) can use our existing endpoints/streamers to handle AirPlay and/or that you can do this already in a clunky / con…

Spotify Integration not available.

If you search you’ll find this subject has been discussed to death, unlikely to happen… Spotify has 443 million users (188 million of them paying subscribers) at the last count. I very much doubt they could care less about a niche music delivery platform like Roon. I expect Spotify ambitions lie much more in how content is generated and licensed and how they can over time create audio content that they fully own the rights to — much like Amazon, Netflix and Apple+ are increasingly generating …

[RobOK]

As mentioned in other posts, you can use Soundizz to move playlists in their free version, or in their paid version you can set up automatic syncs from Spotify to Tidal or Qobuz which will then show up in Roon. Not exactly what you are asking about but just making sure you are aware.

[DrCWO (C.W. Oehlrich)]

@j_a_m_i_e

Spotify Connect though Roon in order to use Roon’s DSP and multi room features.

Thanks‘ for mentioning rooExtend with rooPlay
I have plans to integrate Spotify Connect during this year in rooPlay.

Best DrCWO

[Tyson_Phan]

@j_a_m_i_e thanks for your thorough response. Understand how things work now.