What's coming in Roon OS 2.0 (not Roon 2.0, but Roon OS 2.0)?

[simon_pepper]

@danny

I’m planning on a Roon OS 2.0 later this year with new capabilities

Oh, do tell what you are planning for RoonOS 2.0?

[danny (Danny Dulai)]

I have a list, but I don’t want to promise anything…

How abo ut you tell me what you’d like to see?

Things not on the table:

• NFS
• Roon UI on HDMI
• WiFi support
• support for non-NUC (it’ll continue to be a roll of the dice)
• network interface bonding

Things on the table (but not yet committed to):

• UEFI support (done)
• better exFAT support (done)
• fixing cd ripper issue (done)
• something shown on the HDMI (chromecast UI?)
• extensions
• some other sanctioned services
• network bridging
• HDMI CEC support
• more machine/os stats on web ui

EDIT: I’ve deleted a bunch of posts on this thread… This is about Roon OS, not Roon. If you don’t know the difference, please refrain from commenting.

[Wolfgang_Saul]

Rock 2.0 should be as small and free of ballast as possible. My wish list: 1. Best sound, 2. Best sound … 20. Best sound 21. The best possible support for USB 2.0. Compared to AudioLinux, InnuOS, VitOS … Rock still has to sound the best! For a million additional options … there are other solutions.

[Wayne_Carter]

It’s a small thing but how about a “Force Rescan” toggle on the main dashboard? Those of us with libraries on NAS have to navigate into the Settings - Storage - Force rescan every time we add something to the library and it is a pain. Perhaps where the spinning widget shows library activity. Just eliminates several steps which quite honestly I do potentially a few times a day.

[danny (Danny Dulai)]

@Wayne_Carter , what would you like to have Roon OS do about this? Again, note that Roon OS is not Roon.

[miramax74 (Massimiliano Mirannalti)]

I really love Roon OS. I cannot remind a single issue, super stable.
I would like to be able to configure folder, naming structure and metadata tagging for the ripped albums.

[florib]

@danny

• something shown on the HDMI (chromecast UI?)
• extensions

These are my two favorites from your list.

[Xekomi]

@danny

How about you tell me what you’d like to see?

A BIOS update tool built into the installer GUI - that was the worst part of the install experience here. Not RoonLabs’ fault, but on your plate if you want it done properly.

Want a neat trick with HDMI ? Use it for Device integrity monitoring. And please implement integrity monitoring in general.

Not sure if that’s ROCK, but cloud backup for the files, not just the database.

[alec_eiffel (Rémi)]

My vote:

• extensions for example pre-installed Extension Manager, incl. ablility to install Entrypoints / Bluetooth
• ability to install HQPlayer embedded (or preinstalled)
• ability to reboot OS or relaunch roon server from a Roon remote

[Rugby (aka Daniel or Big Dan)]

Hmm, since it is not on the “Things not on the table” list, and they are all similar:

1. Some way of monitoring the system thermals and memory usage
2. Some way of running memory or drive diagnostics. Currently users are asked to boot into a live linux or Windows environment to run such things. If you are in RoonOS you shouldn’t be asked to load a different OS to test the hardware.

[simon_pepper]

Interesting question, as at present RoonOS as part of ROCK running on a NUC does everything I want of it, as a place to run Roon Core to serve my endpoints & zones.
As such I want RoonOS to run as light and fast as possible, with as little resource usage. Additional functionality normally means additional resource usage, so for me “less is definitely more”.

Out of interest I would like a load monitor, with lightweight probes, something like istat with CPU utilisation, load, memory/cache usage and network throughput. I have istat running on my ReadyNAS units, have ported to a RPi and a legacy Linksys NSLU2. I view the statistics on a iOS app. This means the chart rendering is performed off-server, with just the probes running in a thread caching a limited level of data.

On the subject of “something shown on the HDMI (chromecast UI?)”, just get a Chromecast dongle for the display! As to run on RoonOS you would have to envoke GPU processing in the OS, and drive a display - taking away from the headless server focus of RoonOS. Stick to what it is intended as, an embedded server-side headless applicance.
If more is needed, the user can install a general purpose OS and install the Core+Remote product, is my view.

BTW istat see GitHub - bjango/istatserverlinux: A system monitoring daemon that sends stats to Send stats to iStat View for iOS and iStat View for macOS.

[danny (Danny Dulai)]

@alec_eiffel

incl. ablility to install Entrypoints / Bluetooth

what does this mean?

@Xekomi

A BIOS update tool built into the installer GUI - that was the worst part of the install experience here. Not RoonLabs’ fault, but on your plate if you want it done properly.

Is this even possible on NUCs? I didn’t think so…

@Xekomi

Not sure if that’s ROCK, but cloud backup for the files, not just the database.

This is an interesting idea… I’ll split it this out here:

Is there any interest in a music files backup solution?

While discussing Roon OS 2.0, @Xekomi suggested a feature: We’ve thought about this before, but it’s been unclear if there is interest in this. Is it interesting to anyone to have a monthly/yearly add-on fee for online backup storage of your music files? If so, what would do you think would be a fair cost? Be reasonable This is going to cost us in development and ongoing maintenance.

[danny (Danny Dulai)]

@simon_pepper

The ability to support multiple networks for storage and endpoints.
So one Ethernet port is for the storage side, accessing NAS units, the internet for meta-data, rest-of-network, and a second ‘add-on port to a NUC’ is for the networked endpoints.

This already works to some degree. Just add a second interface (usually via usb). You won’t get DHCP on the subnet, but you can put your audio endpoints and/or NAS there if you’d like, with a static IP.

[alec_eiffel (Rémi)]

@danny

@alec_eiffel

incl. ablility to install Entrypoints / Bluetooth

what does this mean?

It’s an extension allowing to send audio to Roon via Bluetooth. Entrypoints, the audio entrance to Roon, made the move to HiRes!

[dhusky]

@danny

Things on the table (but not yet committed to):

• extensions

I’d really like this if it were possible - there’s a few extensions I’d like to try but I don’t really want to setup and maintain yet another device to make this work.

[Tarun_Kundhi]

Keep it lean and lightweight.

• UEFI support - Yes
• network bridging - Yes
• better exFAT support - Yes
• fixing cd ripper issue - Yes

Additional monitoring as suggested by some other commenters.

[jacobacci (Rudi)]

Definitely UEFI boot, so as to make ROCK useable on non legacy boot device es (such as Pentium NUCs).
Not sure if you would count the following as being part of ROCK 2.0 or part of Roon. I would be looking for a ROCK implementation that contains Roon Bridge in order to build a Roon Endpoint based on low power (Pentium or Celeron) NUC or NUC like devices. I can do this without major issues using say diet, but dietpi does not maintain itself automatically as does ROCK. I would definitely prefer a Roon supplied one shop solution for a NUC based endpoint.
Alternatively or additionally a ROCK based Roon Bridge endpoint for RP4.

[danny (Danny Dulai)]

@jacobacci

Not sure if you would count the following as being part of ROCK 2.0 or part of Roon. I would be looking for a ROCK implementation that contains Roon Bridge in order to build a Roon Endpoint based on low power (Pentium or Celeron) NUC or NUC like devices. I can do this without major issues using say diet, but dietpi does not maintain itself automatically as does ROCK. I would definitely prefer a Roon supplied one shop solution for a NUC based endpoint.

I think you are suggesting we have a way to disable the Roon Core and replace it with Roon Bridge.

This would be more interesting on lighter weight machines, like Raspberry Pis and so, yah? But with Roipeee and DietPi, is there a need for this? Both are approved by us.

[Neil_Small]

I’m guessing this won’t fit, since it’s not strictly Roon OS, but database validation/verification/integrity, including backups.

[Wayne_Carter]

Hi - guess I am not clear on OS vs Roon. Assumed that a dashboard change would be part of the OS…