Put the artist’s website next to the album

I found lots of Current Jazz albums with no Meta Data whatsoever, just the picture of the album!

My suggestion for ROON if this is the case please put the website of the artist next to the album, so we can get the info right there!

For example here is an album with no info:

Bacso Kristof IMAGINARY FACES.

The Wesite address you could attach to the album’s page:

If the artist has no website then put the WIKIPEDIA’S link next to the album! I think that is the MINIMUM ROON should for our money!

But no info is not nice!

Not all artists have webpages, and even fewer have Wikipedia page links. If the information doesn’t exist or hasn’t been indexed yet, then there is nothing to show. There are tens of millions of artists and bands in the world. My dad released a record, for instance, and though the vinyl exists in the world, he has no website, there are no digital-age published reviews, and he isn’t in Wikipedia.

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It’s already there at the end of the Wikipedia summary…

If there is information about the artist—AllMusic, Wikipedia—it will be displayed. That’s not “no info”. AFAIK, there is no single reliable source holding the information you request.

Personally, I’d rather see Roon implement the Vorbis COMMENT field, which can include URLs.

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Where is the Wikipedia summery of an album?

Go to Roon’s :gear: > General > Editorial sources and click Edit. Then you can choose which sources you want to use and also order them preferentially by using the drag handles ( the 6 dots icon on the left of each entry).

Here you can see that I prefer TiVo’s material, but if there is no TiVo entry for a selected album or artist, then the relevant Wikipedia entry will be displayed (if there is one)

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Thank you very much!
Gabor

That actually not correct! There are lots of new jazz albums with no info but there is info on Wikipedia!

Any existing Wikipedia article should normally be visible in Roon. Please post examples that don’t work

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Here are three examples (there are many others) where are no information of the groups, musicians, or their albums, in fact there are no informations at all, even though there are info about the musicians or groups on Wikipedia :

1.Kenny Reichert: Live in Chicago
2. Kristof Bacso Trio:LET IT GO
3. 45 TRIO: Trio c/w Nebulosa

Thank you!

None of these specific artists or albums have Wikipedia pages I can find, at least not in English. Maybe in Hungarian. In this case: “Magyar Wikipedia” is an option in Roon, but you need to enable it.

When I suggested to please post examples, I meant that YOU find the pages and post their URLs. My idea was not that you would expect me to do your work for you.

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I am sorry I did not mean to bother you! I am in Bend Oregon actually, I am new with ROONso presently I am learning how to use it,but I was surprised that there are lots of albums with no info about the albums and their musicians at all!
I thought ROON searches the net and pulls in sites of the artists! I did not know it is limited to certain sources( even though I know which are listed)! It is too bad, as there are plenty of websites with info about these artists like their own website or on bandcamp.com etc.
It would be nice if ROON would display these websites, when Wikipedia or other of its sources has nothing on them!
ROON states they have the best Meta Data of albums, and musicians but it can be improved. Like of these three samples we do not even know from ROON who are playing in this albums, and do not know anything about the albums at all!
So my note was more of a SUGGESTION for improvement maybe include a google search somehow next to the albums which have no info at all.
It would be nice just to click on them instead of doing our own search!
Thank you!

There are different aspects to consider here:

If there is a Wikipedia page for the specific artist or album, it should be display in Roon. If it isn’t, this would be a bug and should be reported as a bug in Support. Therefore, it would be helpful if you pointed to specific pages that are missing in Roon, so that other users can check this first.

Roon also has artists’ personal websites and accounts on Facebook, X (Twitter), and instagram, such as here:

Therefore, personal websites like the one by Kristóf Bacsó that you posted, https://www.kristofbacsomusic.com/, should arguably be included on Kristóf Bacsó’s artist page in Roon. However, I think they must be maintained by some metadata service that Roon uses. This is probably necessary because not every artist website has an obvious name that can be automatically mapped to an artist.

Therefore, they are often missing for smaller artists. This is not an easy problem to solve because that state of metadata is globally not great (and this is largely the fault of the labels who don’t provide it to the services).

Another problem that is related to the often poor state of metadata in general is that different artists with the same name may incorrectly be mixed up, or that artists exist more than once, with some albums assigned to one version and others to another. This seems to be the case for Kristóf Bacsó, for instance:

In such cases, you can merge them in Roon:

  1. Add at least one album by each artist to the library
  2. Select both artists at the same time
  3. Click the merge button that will appear top right. Note that you will merge one artist into the other, and only the metadata of the artist you “merge into” will “survive”, so choose the better one. You can always undo this merge again in Roon > Settings > Library.

The metadata sources that Roon uses are:

  • MuscBrainz
  • TiVo / Allmusic

On MusicBrainz, volunteers are doing their best, while TiVo is commercial. However, given that there are tens of millions of small artists and hundreds of millions of small releases, this will never be complete.

I don’t think it’s possible that Roon goes out to search the Internet algorithmically because it’s really difficult to confirm authoritative sources automatically (as opposed to fan sites, etc)..

There are already various feature requests for improvements you can vote for, but this is not always easy. For instance, Bandcamp and Discogs don’t have stable data models that lend themselves well to automation.

It would also be nice if there was an option to add one’s own links, notes, etc:

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Here is an example: I am listening :slight_smile: ‘Atlantis Quartet: Again Too Soon.
Wikipedia has a page of the group.
ROON has absolutely nothing!not even the names of the musicians!

OK, so first of all, it’s correct that there is this page:

And the page is not reflected in Roon:

I think this is a bug and you should report it in SupportGet Help

Second,…

Note that the credits on the album and Wikipedia page on the artist (or album) page are two different things. The Wikipedia links should always exist in Roon if they exist on Wikipedia (if not, see above).

The album credits would have to come from MusicBrainz or TiVo, and clearly they don’t have them. This isn’t uncommon, as mentioned, and you will encounter this often. This is a frequent topic of discussion and isn’t great, but somebody would have to enter them in a metadata service (such as MusicBrainz or TiVo), and if nobody does, then they aren’t there. My personal opinion is that this is the job of the label. If neither the label, nor the artist, nor volunteers did it, then they can’t magically appear.