Well as long as we don’t get any feedback on this from the Roon team it’s all speculating and not necessarily getting us ahead.
I’m in the UK — and performance is variable. Sometimes it’s smooth other times not, and rebooting the server (Nucleus Plus) makes little difference. I have a very large library: 56,720 albums, mostly on a NAS, with a small percentage on Qobuz.
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I have a quick question - what if you jsut did filtering of albums instead of searching? I know it will bring only results in your library, but just curious how it performs when search is slow vs. when search is fast. Is there a corelation, i.e. is filtering also slow/fast?
Okay, I just rebooted my Nucleus Plus (32 Gigs memory) and searched for “Led Zeppelin! - 12 seconds to get a result and a few seconds to load the band page.
Using Focus to filter it took 28 seconds to show the result.
I have a bookmarked filter for “Stravinsky”, which took 6 seconds to display the results.
Past experience suggests that these figures can change every day, or even every few hours, and that Roon remote sometimes disconnects from the server when I search (eventually it reconnects).
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Same here - I have over 150k tracks (about 9k albums), and no performance issues for me.
Curious - does this 28 seconds change daily/hourly? The “Led Zeppelin” search results - are those only from local files, or online too, i.e. do you have a mixture of albums local and Tidal/Qobuz in your library?
I would have to do the search hourly to provide an answer, but searches regularly perform slowly.
A search will be across my local library and Qobuz, a filter just across my library (which can include some Qobuz items).
The position seems to be this: some people are having problems they were not having before the most recent update, others are not, and no-one knows why.
Absent any input from Roon support, I’m not sure it can be taken any further at present.
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What if you did a filter for something, that you know will not hit Qobuz, i.e. that will return only from your local - is that still that slow?
And please don’t spend time trying hourly, I am only a user trying to see some patterns, and relate them to size of library and hitting Tidal/Qobuz for searching…
If I filter albums instead of searching the results from my local library comes up immediately…
I just did a filter for an album that is only in my local library, and it was returned in 4 seconds. A search returned it, and others, in 10 seconds.
Not too bad at the moment - I can live with that - but I’ve recently rebooted the server and results are usually slower after a day or so. In the past, I’ve had to reboot the server every 7 days or so, but now after 4 days everything grinds to a halt.
(Deleted, I misread)
Strange. As far as filtering goes, I’ve always had mostly instantaneous, almost 90K tracks, (900 local cds, otherwise Qobuz) ROCK on Nuclear 7i5. So if it’s something I know I have, I filter. I mostly search for new names I discover.
Did you misread albums for tracks? Those are 56K albums, 10 songs average in an album, that is over 560K tracks, and Roon quotes: “If you have over 250K+ tracks in your library, consider us impressed!”
I would have thought that this is what Roon consider a large library - 56 700 Albums must be half a million or more tracks That is twice the 250 000 tracks that the quoted article calls a large library.
Thanks for pointing this out, I did indeed misread the post. Don’t eat and post! I edited my post to avoid confusion
For the avoidance of doubt, it’s 629,660 tracks, with only a small percentage on Qobuz as part of my library.
I acknowledge that’s a pretty hefty library - hence my NAS and 32 Gigs RAM on my Nucleus Plus. I also accept that there will be some performance issues with such a large library, but since the last upgrade, I (and others) are experiencing problems we didn’t have before.
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Have you thought about (or actually done) an upgrade to the internal SSD (the one dedicated to the OS and library) of the Nucleus +? I am certain the original SSD can be upgraded for a better one, and theoretically it should improve performance, but don’t quote me on this, just a suggestion.
I’d not heard of that before as a performance improvement. I’m not really an expert and wouldn’t know how to upgrade the existing SSD.
I just happend to read similar topics recently:
I have a Nucleus Plus, Rev B.