rooExtend – The easy start with Roon Extensions

I created this thread with the upcoming rooExtend packge v2.0.0. Why?

Starting with rooDial, the number of Roon Extensions supported by rooExtend grew steadily and will continue growing. All my Roon Extensions are collected on my website https://rooExtend.com.

With v2.0.0 now four Roon Extensions are in the package. rooNuimo is the new member. It supports Senic’s Nuimo so that Roon can be controlled with it. An absolutely marvellous device for everyone who enjoys perfect design with a high-end feel and for which price is not the decisive criterion. For more info see my website.

For the users of rooExtend, licensing only one or two Extensions from many Roon Extensions would be unpleasant. They would see a lot of unlicensed Extensions hanging around screaming in red letters “license me”.

Another point is that each licensed Roon Extension requires its own license key. You must remember them if you want to update to the new version. Many have asked me about OTA updates. But hey, I’m a one-man show without the right web server and I just can’t provide that now. Maybe later…

Ultimately, all of this led me to the idea to develop a License Manager as a Roon Extension.

What can you do with it?

  • All license keys are now gathered in one place and are no longer scattered across the individual Roon Extensions.

  • By inserting a formatted USB stick into the Raspberry Pi, the license keys are automatically saved in a file on the USB stick.

  • If you insert this USB stick before booting - after updating the SD card to a new version of rooExtend - the licenses are automatically re-imported. No more manually entering the license keys.

  • The Raspberry Pi can also be given a name in the License Manager. This is especially useful if you have several versions of rooExtend running. This allows you to differentiate between the individual Roon Extensions within Roon.

  • Global settings like the display language are now handled within the License Manager and no more separate for each Roon Extension.

  • In addition to managing the licenses, the License Manager is also the place where you can activate or deactivate the Roon Bridge, which is now finally available. This means that rooExtend can now also be used, together with a USB DAC, as a full-fledged streaming client for Roon.

Please let us discuss al topics regarding the License Manager here. Maybe also am OTA update will be issued in near future for minor version upgrades.

So far so good, it remains exciting :+1:
Best DrCWO

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Thank you very much for adding Roon Bridge, it’s a great addition.

It would be very nice if you could add NAA so the same Pi would also be a HQPlayer endpoint!

Kind regards,
Philippe

Philipe,
you are lucky, I now have the NAA software package her and plan to test this next week.

Best DrCWO

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If this is not the best service ever I don’t know what it is :wink:

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And what about the option to add rooUPnP or rooPlay to a Pi used also for other purposes (without much load)? So some packages to install instead of the whole image?
I know it would make support harder, but could be interesting for many people…

Piotr,
I customized the Raspbian image a lot for very few SD-card access to make its life longer, to deliver a WiFi Accesspoint for easy wireless setup and also things to make Bluetooth run with Microsoft Surface Dial and more.

All this I cannot deliver without an image. And as you wrote, support gets much more extensive. I am a one-man-band and my time is limited. So I decided to spend my time in developing cool Roon Extensions instead of handling massive support threads. Looking at the support that Phillipe44 did for his squeeze bridge was a pure nightmare for me. Not everybody is skilled to handle technical IT stuff. So I decided to make things easy even for non IT music listeners. This was my intention. Hope you understand.

Best DrCWO

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How much does it help though? I’ve been running multiple rpi using Raspberry Pi OS (previously called Raspbian) for many years without any sd card failing…

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Custom cover plates for Raspberry Pi 4 case from FLIRC!

I wanted to have a custom cover plate for my Pi 4 case from Flirc. There is a small mechanical factory next door but the guy told me that he doesn’t make one-offs. Now I have some of them here and could hand them over.

The lids are milled from aluminum, black anodized and laser engraved. Look very good :slight_smile: They fit perfectly into the recess of the Pi 4 case from Flirc and are flush at the top. They have to be fixed with a drop of super glue. They replace the plastic cover that is shipped with the Flirc case.

If you are interested, I would sell them at a manufacturing price of $ 28 plus 10$ shipping flat worldwide.

If I get some feedback here, I will set up an offer in Sellcodes where you can buy. After buying you must mail me the bought license code and the shipping address.

Here some images so you know what it is.

Best DrCWO

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First of all I want to congratulate you with the RooExtend product. I am following the evolutions as of day one.

In my current setup I am running Ropiee on a Pi4 as a Roon Bridge to my Integrated Hegel amp.
I also use the Alarm Clock extension which is included in Ropieee and run on the Pi.

Suppose I would repurpose the Pi to RooExtend I would be able to use a MS Surface knob and the Roon Bridge functionality. But what about the Alarm Clock extension? Is there a way to continue to use this without adding another PI in the mix?

As far as I know the Roon Extensions from @Jan_Koudijs are docker based. So my guess is they also can be run on the Windows or Linux machine where your Roon core is installed.

I did not yet include Jan’s Roon Extensions in my image though I believe this might be possible.

So my recommendation is: Ask Jan if his Extensions can be ran on the Roon Core and if yes you’re done.

I would appreciate if you report the result of your finding here :slight_smile:

Best DrCWO

I have a Pi for a 6d and Nuimo hub for the Nuimo control. Can I use one install of the license manager on the Raspberry Pi to manage both licenses? Or do I need to use license manager on both?

You can run both roo6D and rooNuimo from the same Raspberry Pi.

Meaning, with one Rpi (thus one BT adapter) I can manage both the 3dConnexion Space Mouse and the Nuimo Control?

I use the Nuimo hub to provide BT coverage for a zone that’s at the other end of the house.

As @Klaus_Engel wrote rooExtend allowas the parallel use of roo6D and rooNuimo with ONE Raspberry Pi. The SpaceMouse uses its own wireless dongle so Bluetooth for rooNuimo can coexist without trouble.

Using them both at different locations in your house, it makes sense to run both, the Raspberry Pi AND the Nuimo-Hub. The wireless dongle of the SpaceMouse and also the Bluetooth of the Nuimo only cover some meters.

This also means you have two License Managers running, one at the Pi and the other at the Hub. With the next release of rooExtend coming end of Sept. there will be a switch to hide the license manager till the next boot meaning: No more “useless” Roon Extensions any more :wink:

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I have a DAC (Hidizs S9 Pro) that doesn’t work properly with RooPlay. When adjusting the volume the DAC goes to maximum volume at 42 and then goes back to normal at 43, 44, etc.

I’m told this is an issue with alsamixer where all devices are set to 42 and if I change them it will solve my problem.

Do we have access to Rooextend via SSH server. If not, any chance this can be changed by @DrCWO

Thanks!

With a little help from @DrCWO it looks like I’ve solved my problem.

Via terminal I accessed the alsamixer ("alsamixer -c 1) and opened the volume control for the S9 Pro (F6). PCM 1 volume was set to 42. I raised it to 100 (0db) and the volume issue is no longer.

I think this is a S9 Pro problem because I didn’t have it with other DACs and had the same problem with the S9 Pro and RopieeeXL.

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A visit at Senic in Berlin with some interesting news…

rooNuimo – best Roon controller ever - Audio Gear Talk - Roon Labs Community

Best DrCWO

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I’m currently running rooUPnP 1.4.1. It works very well on my first generation Pi. I’ve tried to update to 2.0.2 today but been stymied by the need to have the licence key on a USB stick, which I don’t seem to be able to achieve from 1.4.1.

A couple of questions:

  1. All my current UPnP players work well with 1.4.1. Is it worth updating to 2.0.2?

  2. If I should upgrade, how do I migrate the licence key from 1.4.1 to 2.0.2?

Have your licence key ready and flash the SD card with the new version. Upon setup you will have to enter the key and you are good to go.
I don‘t understand the usb thing.

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Yes, I did that and the extension works fine. But I was wondering about the key saving functionality described in the initial announcement:

“By inserting a formatted USB stick into the Raspberry Pi, the license keys are automatically saved in a file on the USB stick.”

Maybe the ExFAT format I like to use isn’t the right choice?